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Answer : 71 B
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71B
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Answer: preliminary design project 71A, later finalized was called 71B
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Answer: preliminary design was called 71A, when finalized it was 71B
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One more thing Wargaming on a completely different note. STOP NERFING THE SUBS thank you
Funny I don’t remember Graf Zepplien ever being comparable to Ark Royal or Yorktown as either carried more aircraft than she ever could.
as the vids are good but it doesnt have much viewers
so sad
To be fair, Graf Zeppelin did have absolutely massive hangers.
In terms of total hanger floorspace they where larger than most other carriers of the time. I looked it up and a Yorktown has around 3200m2. Ark Royal was pretty big herself with around 5500m2, but Graf Zeppelin was around 5600m2. For comparison, the also very large Shokaku was around 5500m2 and Essex was around 4250m2. Deck parking made a big difference and skews the numbers in favour of the USN. In reality they had a price to pay for their single open hanger because such a structure was heavier than two closed hangers of larger size. From what I understand, it has to do with breaking up the hull and creating a superstructure on top of it. US carriers did that and that made their hulls weaker, thus they needed more material to compensate. Other navies just one hull structure all the way to the flight deck and that was lighter.
The problem with Graf Zeppelin was how the planes where intended to be stored. The Germans intended to line them up in a single row with a lot of space between the planes for arming and maintaining them. Then they literally wanted to lift them up the plane by crane attached to the hanger roof, move them to a lift, put the plane on a launching trolley and catapult them. It was one of many issues that Graf Zeppelin had in its design phase.
In theory the Germans could have made quite a useful carrier out of Graf Zeppelin, but only after a major rebuild where they would have to change a lot of the ships internals. They also would need a lot of knowledge gathered about how to carry out carrier operations. And that wasn’t going to happen. And even then, the hangers did include a large number of fuel lines that ran over the with of the hanger at the roof. The Germans seem to have picked that up from the IJN and that seems to have been a good part of the massive fired those ships suffered when hit…
@DaniëlWW2 I’d argue some of its weapons it carried in sponsens also affected aircraft capacity as well so n my opinion nothing less than a full redesign would have actually increased it, though I’ll defer to you on aircraft handling arrangements as I was not aware what the germans hand planned in that regard but I don’t think it has as much as an impact for her total capitcity including what else she would have carried. But again I could be wrong on that matter, as you say deck parking really helped US carriers out during the war.
As for your other points in general, aside from the storage, I agree her launch method was full of flaws and if she had a major redesign prior to at least most of her hull being built, then yeah. But as you say that would require experience which they had not gained to do it since they hadn’t had the time to actually work on testing out carriers like the other powers had.
As for the fuel line thing, I’m fairly sure for the Japanese at least it had to do with them not realising how much of a tinder box a carrier hanger could be, Britain knew already due in part one of her seaplane tenders going up during WW1 and put what they learnt from that into theirs to ensure it couldn’t happen again and thus played a role in how RN carriers survived taking massive damage to their hangers if their flight deck got penetrated by bombs. I know the US learnt alot from Illustrious survival of heavy bomb damage but my knowledge as to their true extent of their carriers survivability or preventing what happened to IJN carriers happening fall stop is rather small so I can’t really say anything else on that.
Something I never wanted more than enough CVs
Yes we have been waiting for Armada and Soviet CVs soo much
Never have too many cvs in wg opinion, rate going add Helicarrier.
The more CV’s they make the more teardrops we can drink from the cry babies.
“The operational elements weren’t inferior to those of Ark Royal and Yorktown”? Ah, yes they were, they’d have to actually exist to be fairly compared to those on ships that actually did.
Most soviet ship designs can be best described as Stalin appeasement ships, stoke his ego and pray you never have to actually try to build it and if you did build it pray they forgot you designed it.
@fourteenfour Yeah, that’s every Nations motto and pride, but Stalin and the Soviets only see this as a Dream could ever Imagine and to be the Best on their Navies, but never actually Real, he dies for Good than live more years
It’s game nimrod.
“The operational elements weren’t inferior to those of Ark Royal and Yorktown”
Huh!…Said a ship that never could exist. xD
yeah .. Yamato then drastically changed the course of the war.. oh wait
@Red Rew Wargaming will always make me Laugh…
To hear them, you have the impression that it is the Russians who do everything.
😂😂😂
(Wargaming is a Belarusian company,
Why does it make me wanna laugh even more !!?)
And, as we all know, Soviet aircraft carriers single handedly won WWII.
And then they create the Gate of the Multiverse in Man in the High Castle to Alternate their History to Win in WWII, defeating both Allies and Axis by themselves, they destroy the Statue of Liberty and make a Weird Communist Man standing statue, and invade Japan and steals all their Warships and slap the Existing names in Paperships where the Project has never been build.
Totally, Historical Accuracy, after watching the Man in the High Castle S4 ending
With the upcoming line German will has the most tech tree ships and we all know how big their navy was in WW2 right? Oh wait.
theyre who sank the tirpitz
No they did not win ww2 get your information right
@Robert Charles Sullivan its a joke
What’s next WOWs? Tier X Russian carrier will be angled deck carrier with Jet aircraft armed with Anti Ship Missiles?
Answer: Preliminary design was called 71A, when finalized it was 71B.
Server: EU
IGN: Shakan
Answer: Preliminary design was called 71A, when finalized it was 71B.
Server: NA
ID: The_Submariner
Lets fire of Gneisenau and make CabMech quit, that will surely let the player base trust us!
“Our cocktail-napkin-sketch of an aircraft carrier would have been the best CV ever!”
Whatever, дебил.
Answer: Preliminary design was called 71A, when finalized it was 71B.
Server: EU
IGN: Luca_596
Answer: The preliminary design project was named “71A”. The finalized project being “71B”
Server: ASIA
IGN: Draegen_Plays
Answer: Preliminary design was called 71A, when finalized it was 71B.
Server: EU
IGN: Supertyy
Answer: Preliminary design was called 71A, when finalized it was 71B
Server: EU
IGN: Sarakin_Tekitsu
Preliminary design was called 71A, when finalized it was 71B.
Server: EU
Nickname: tufir_2
“Preliminary design was called 71A, when finalized it was 71B”
Server: EU
IGN: poitou
Answer: Preliminary design was called 71A, when finalized it was 71B.
Server: NA
IGN: Incognito_Ar
As a former navy crew, I love this game. Keep going wargaming.
Preliminary design: 71A / Finalized version: 71B
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Big_Trading_Clipper
Answer: Preliminary design was called 71A, when finalized it was 71B
Server: EU
IGN: LooPann