It’s taken a bit for me to find my comfort zone with the Kiev. Still not sold on it but there’s no denying it’s a dangerous ship!
I was trying the Kiev in ranked, and it’s interesting. Odd thing is, I didn’t find much use for AFT. There are just so few BBs and an overabundance of DDs. I’m not skilled enough to effectively hit DDs beyond about 11 or 12km, so I specced out of it and ran DE and SE instead. An 18 point captain would be nice though to allow for all three.
I’m sure you’ll be happy to know that the AP of all of the RU DDs has had its normalisation buffed from 8° to 10° as of 0.5.10. I feel bad for you for having to toil away with it in that old UP condition ;)
Talkin shit bout the Kiev? Hell naw.
Thank you! I’ve been struggling with this ship and you’ve absolutely shown me why.
I still think the Kiev ist just very StronKK. Because russian navy is best navy ;-P Its just fun warping around the maps and set everything at fire, just by the look at an enemy 😀 And the Tashkent afterwards is no stinker either ;)
Over all I think your ship overviews are the best I have seen keep up the good work.
Although I unlocked Ognevoi, I’m still at Gnevny and waiting for the 14th point before I start retraining, and I also need to respec EM out. However, USSR DD damage output seem very inconsistent to me.
business what do you think if I use for the captain XP I use expert survivability I think the extra health would be helpful especially if you go one O one vs the mahan or any other DD how have higher health i’m i right or not i want to know because I almost close to buy this ship.
Another perfect review. :)
loved this ship even post nerf. excellent harrasser. and the torps DO make a difference, as a Fuso can take all 10 of stock torps. With the upgraded ones there’s a small chance that it’ll just sink outright.
It was much more fun to play when this ship had 15,500 HP
IMO Kiev is the last ship in the line where its small profile / speed is used to mitigate damage. Tash and forward I found that playing them more like a cruiser was very necessary. I still contested caps with Kiev but after that it became harder and harder with T8+ usn DDs roaming caps and people being able to shoot better at higher tiers.
what i see there is exactly what i miss in the mahan and makes me still go back to my farragut from time to time…if you fire ant kinds longer ranges and you go fast…those arcs curving in to the target…damn, that ooks sexy 🙂 oh and regarding AP, i havepretty solid 2-3k salvos agains nagatos and colorados (broadside/superstrukture). i like to light them on fire at least once tho before i switch to ap :P
Almost done with the Ognevoi. Looking forward to the Kiev.
Hey Business, i just have to ask because it seems like no body else does it. How come you dont use the right mouse button while youre holding sustained fire? like from 17:30 while constantly raining on the Amagi, i would have held down the RMB after finding the lead which would have kept the aim exactly where i had it, even while turning, while also allowing me to look around at my surroundings, then let go and see if i need to re-adjust my aim.
Im only really asking because i never see anyone else doing it, which seems off when it feels quite useful.
I don’t think Blys have the AP penetration like Kiev because of the arc shells. Kiev is more like a type of ship that never stop shooting.I think if you have to knife fight with others destroyer, I suggest you should kite them.
Are you going to do a Tashkent video? I’m on it now and my god, so situational. OK it can tank some damage (I will definitely be taking SE when I get 14 points) but it NEEDS to. I’ve had 100k+ dam games in it but they’re rare compared to the slaughtered soon as seen games. It’s just so friggin huge!
One of the toughest adjustments to playstyle, in the RU DD, is not early capping, and maintaining range while keeping the guns hot. I don’t even bother with CE, because you should always be firing.
Another great video Business! You helped me out a couple of weeks ago with my Kiev gameplay. I tried playing the Kiev like a US/Japanese DD, and you pointed out that it doesn’t work that way, and it helped.
What are your thoughts on the changing threat environment for destroyers? It seems like everyone n’ their mother is starting to get radar or hydro, extended range secondaries, etc, especially with the upper tier German BB’s. Being primarily a DD driver, I can’t help but feel like it’s getting more and more difficult to operate effectively. Guess that means I have to adapt better. 🙂
By the way, the premium cammo on the Fletcher is worth it. Fletcher is my favorite ship (dare I say, over the Gearing, which I just got too), and with the premium cammo and associated skills/modules, my surface detect is down to 5.8km.
yeah I was also a bit overhyped for this ship. It’s a very cool ‘little’ gunboat and it’s basically my main ship now, but I expected a bit more. The low HP is the downside of the kiev, I think it should have a bit more (around 14-15k)
just had a 120k dmg game with it , I just love it
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