Loading...Back in a dark age known only as Closed Beta Test, there was a cruiser that was armed with 40, yes you read that right, FORTY torpedo tubes. And there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth, not just from its enemies…
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+Canal MP Gamers It’s not about spotting torpedoes in the water and dodging
them like Neo. It is about having a brain, you see Kitakami 7km away from
with his broadside facing you… and you sail in a stright line and get
rekt by torpedoes? You are an ****, sorry, but that is a fact. Same goes
for destroyers and all ship-launched torpedoes, take actions when you think
he launched torpedoes, don’t wait for them to be 50m away from you…
+Hoang Nguyen lol, if you get killed in a BB by destroyer, you screwed up.
DD can kill only a fool in BB…
Don’t be alone, stay in a pack, ideally have at least one cruiser with you.
Allways keep changing direction (zig-zaging) and changing speed (from full
– to half – to full, etc etc) and you will never get hit by torpedoes fired
from DD at his max. spotting range. If he gives up on long range torps and
gets closer, allways head towards him, as there are probably torpedoes in
the water and you want to be facing them, not showing your side towards
them.
+Hoang Nguyen Your teams cruisers and destroyers (particulary US ones) are
supposed to screen you and keep the enemy destroyer off your back. What you
describe is not an issue with “underpowered BBs” or “overpowered DDs”, its
an issue with the player mentality. The enemy teams 2 DDs simply outplayed
your team, and this happens because the majority of players either have no
clue about the role of their ship in a fleet engagement or simply don’t
care and play this like a singleplayer game.
+Hoang Nguyen My problem is the inaccuracy of BBs. I was in a knifefight
with a DD the other day that was absolutely retarded and sailed in a
straight line. I led my shots perfectly, and at a mere 5km, every one of
his shells were hitting me and setting me afire, and every single one of my
shells was going high or low due to RNG… Ridiculous.
+Hoang Nguyen And now with the reveal of how smokescreen work, you will
eventually see a match where most BB just hang back and follow the crowd
because of the “DD terror symdrome”. XD
+Greyed You are ofcourse right, but KitaKami was crap none the less. It’s
detectability killed it. The only way to make it work was to set ambush
around islands, otherwise averyone in their right mind would just change
course if they saw KitaKami less than 10km away. It had no AA, extremely
weak tier 4 hull and turning circle of a battleship.
+Greyed Great tips actually. Thanks man.
+quincy8557 I am really not a fan of making balancing decisions based on
the lowest common denominator (read: the dumbest players to be found)…
that is how good games get ruined by their own community.
Imagine a division of two (or three haven’t really been in the game ling
enough and my friends dont play WoWS atm) with 40-60
Torps for one side. Pure destruction.
+Pepper Spray I didn’t see him fire any torps that were obviously going to
hit an ally, amd didn’t see him hit an ally or any allied ship have to
break course to try to avoid his torp fire.
KITAKAMIii saaaan
Yes.
+Mansen People *did* get a refund. In closed beta this ship was only
available for purchase from the tech tree using gold. It wasn’t in the
gift shop. When the accounts were wiped people were refunded all the gold
they had spent. No one has this ship now. The only ships we could keep
were those purchased in the gift shop (or for the NA server, those who
purchased the Murmansk from the HumbleBundle package). The Kitakami was
removed with the open beta wipe, and has not been available for repurchase.
dont you remember that NOBODY has this ship in OBT, jingles said it tons of
times
+George Chambers I don’t think you should just instantly call them noobs. I
am currently doing scientific tests and, though I have yet to reach my
conclusions, there are vast amounts of data supporting that there is more
then meets the eye. Just for some examples: There is the “trick-shot
specialist” who tries to launch torps near a friendly, there is “the blind
martial arts master” who does not understand what the white and green
triangles mean and then there is the famous “Will of the Gods” who launches
torps with friendlies around at enemies outside of his own torp range. That
was just the most common examples. But it is clear and supported by
evidence that there is more then just people being novice players to
anything armed with torpedo’s. Also, I think some people like playing them
because they are phallus shaped objects that penetrate something, but
that’s just a theory…..
+shadows96100 As a destroyer driver I DON’T agree. Why would I want my
targets seeing my torpedoes earlier? Should I want them to have more
chance to evade my shots?
Torpedoes launched from beyond the destroyer’s detectability range take a
while to get to the target. They generally miss. Just random speed and
course changes from the target will do it. You probably have no idea how
many torpedoes have been fired at you that never came close enough to be
noticed. If you are being frequently hit then it sounds like you are
steaming in straight lines.
+TheHolyPlaya Don’t forget its also got to be Russian, Wargaming gives the
Russians get the bad end of the deal all the time! 😉 For ‘Balance’ reasons
of course…
+Imperator Caesar Divi Filius Augustus oh yes all in the name of “balance”
+TheHolyPlaya you forgot to mention that the 420 torps all did 90,000
damage each traveled at the speed of light gave no warning and had a range
of 1000km…. to “balance” the game out
+gonavygonavy You just don’t know how to play them. Both Kuma and Tenryu
are great ships. They have good enough guns that work just fine and
torpedoes give them extra flexibility and ability to take down BB alone if
it comes to it.
+gonavygonavy You just don’t know how to play them. Both Kuma and Tenryu
are great ships. They have good enough guns that work just fine and
torpedoes give them extra flexibility and ability to take down BB alone if
it comes to it.
Your kidding right? The Tenryu and Kuma while not epic are in fact good
ships. Besides unless you are keeping them you won’t be in them that long
if your halfway decent with them.
+gonavygonavy I really like them both.
+gonavygonavy Kuma is great. I love it.
+connor forsyth
i think he got to the nagato he mentioned it a few times and showed it in a
video for like 30s while talking about something else
+DEANOGTO and the jap ones, i believe he got to the fuso in CBT
+DEANOGTO He indeed has. He’s played several American and Japanese
battleships, and also the British Warspite. I know he’s made a video for
the Warspite and I think he’s covered a few other ones as well.
+Blueeagle
i mean in the open beta…
+DEANOGTO Have you even looked at his WoWS playlist before asking that
question?
+GuardsmanGary What are you on about, 40 torps is a one trick pony, even
with the better japanese torps its still a one trick pony, no one trick
pony can ever be good.
+GuardsmanGary What are you talking about? He explained why the ship was
only good kicking at noobies. Bad concealment and not fast enough. If a
destroyer (and not a cruiser like the kitakami) with good concealment and
fast capabilities (like almost any destroyers) had 40 torpedoes, no matter
if Japanese or American, it will be slightly better anyway. Like, you know,
the soviet destroyer gremyashchiy…
+GuardsmanGary It’s not bad because it’s Japanese, but because it’s a one
trick pony(and many other reasons) as Jingles said in the video. What
nation the ship is from doesn’t matter in the slightest.
+GuardsmanGary Did you listen to what Jingles had to say? Kitikami was a
Tier 8 CRUISER with a Tier 3 gun armament, cruiser visibility and a
buttload of tubes. I played in CBT and can tell you these things got
focus-fired on as soon as they were spotted and generally died very quickly.
+GuardsmanGary If it was an american destroyer, it would have had guns that
are designed to be fired at a target,not some black painted bamboo in a
disguise as a gun…
And an american destroyer with 40 10km range torps,about 7km spotting
distance and decent guns would be praise-singing-worthy….
+JohnnyMaverik Actually i should argue against my own comment because even
with 203mm guns i still use HE (My Atago does very well in this regard).
Japanese Cruisers have a hard time around tiers 3 to 5 with American
cruisers, but its when the Japanese Heavy cruisers with dual turrets start
doing well, i just click a single time with all turret, 203mm HE does well
in this regard, instead of playing like a battleship by full broadsiding.
+Mirza Ajanovic some mechanics first… hitting and penetrating citadel
with AP = 1,0x damage of the shell, overpenetration = 0,1x damage,
non-citadel penetrations are 0,333x damage. Penetration in a ship section
that was previously badly damaged (darker with modeled damage) deals 0,165x
damage of the shell. Also destroyers don’t have citadels, so hits into
their boiler rooms are 0,5x damage. +RNG ofcourse.
1 fire does 0,3% of maximum ship HP per one second, (ship can burn on 3
places, 3 fires = 0,9%. Also aircraft carriers do take 0,4% of max. HP per
fire due to their wooden decks).
In Battleships, I shoot only AP, battleships are all about the massive
citadels, but your AP will do almost nothing to destroyers, so that is the
only exception when you need HE. But I prefer to avoid shooting at DDs and
let someone else take care of him.
Destroyers shoot HE at everything ang go for fires.
Cruisers are the interesting ones. In my opinion, if I can penetrate him
and he is offering me his unangled broadside, I will shoot AP and go for
citadels. If I can’t penetrate him, or he is angling well, HE it is.
Obviously HE for destroyers and for battleships to set them on fire (some
exceptions here, for example Japanese tier 10 cruiser Zao has strong enough
guns to penetrate citadels of T10 battleships even at close range).
+Mirza Ajanovic AP against cruisers at all times, HE against destroyers and
carriers at all times (you will overpenetrate destoyers with AP and setting
carriers on fire prevents them from launching aircraft) and against
battleships: at long range you fire AP, at close range you either fire HE
into the superstructure or AP into the side armour (just above the
waterline) at the front or rear of the ship – the battleship’s belt armour
covers the entirity of the centre of the ship, so I wouldn’t bet on your
chances of penetrating that with cruiser-calibre AP. It doesn’t cover the
front or rear to well however, and you can still achieve citadel pens if
you hit the area below the gun turrets (I think at least).
+CynCellArby14 Trust me the Japs are even worse off 😛
Also kitakami’s target area over players is much bigger than tier8-9 DDs
target area. Kitakami can hit dummies and normal ones 20 torpedo spam means
it can hit an average joe. BUT fubuki and kagero can only hit dummies. 9-8
torps with not so good consealment means you will rarely hit and normal
ones can avoid getting hit by 8 torpedoes. Good ones you say? Huh? i doubt
they get hit at all. For example a 67 knot torpedo in game has 2.1 km
consealment distance and it will go 1km in 5.5secs. So these torpedoes will
travel 10km in 55secs. What does that mean? It means target has 55 secs to
turn a bit. Torpedoes will miss mostly. You see how hard it actually is to
land torpedoes on people? Fubuki has 57 knot torps with 15km(10km62knots
being stock) those torps travels 1km in 6.5sec… Now the next time you get
hit by ship launched torpedoes blame %100 on yourself.
Ok thanks for the feed back
+Isaac Hendee Not unless you can upload to WoTreplays since Jingles does
not accept replay files. But expect it not to work as the Xbone is pretty
much a closed platform on all fronts.
+Isaac Hendee Probably not, as he doesn’t have any xbox consoles. The only
option would be if you could use the replays on PC, but I highly doubt that
will be possible.
+Saul Tigh The problem with “Historical accuracy” is that it’s an arcade
level game. You would have maps that were twice as large (at least) with
some of the high-tier battleships able to fire from one side of the map all
the way to the other and then some, and many torpedo-bearing ships able to
shoot torpedos with that kind of range too.
People rage about Torps and Battleships killing them from range now. Can
you imagine if the VERY first thing to happen in every game was that all
the battleships would fire their guns and all the destroyers would fire
their torpedos in the general direction of the other team, and 30 seconds
later, half of each team was sunk before anyone even SAW anyone else? Is
that really what you want to be dealing with?
Be glad that Wargaming is focused on BALANCE and not historical accuracy.
+Saul Tigh 🙁 why do you have to be so mean :(((
M8 u eint evan dank.
+Rope Manijn What an achievement. Scientists working on a cure for cancer,
doctors, astronauts and rocket scientists are all jealous of you, random
guy who was the first to comment on today’s video by a minor youtube
celebrity.
You’ve made it to the big leagues now. This is likely to be the highlight
of your life.
+Macdeas hah noob im first!
+What’s Eatin’ You I’m only just now coming back to WoT after a good 9
months or so, with the introduction of the new mode…conquest or
something? Where you can respawn and theres multiple objectives.
The dash and die playstyle the community has adopted over the last year was
really disheartening, but I’ve a new Nvidea 960 coming this week so I may
as well test it out with some tonks or boates!
+What’s Eatin’ You I don’t play WoT anymore but I loved the Closed Beta for
WoWS and I still play it. It’s worth a shot in my opinion.
+C0m0rat May as well try, but it’s just like World of Tanks; get rekt,
grind grind grind, repeat. If you don’t play WoT anymore (like me), you
probably won’t enjoy this game.
+The Shermanator Torp walls of death! haha. I loved the Kitakami on NF.
Still play it when I can! 😀
+The Shermanator True, I was hoping for something like NF Kitakami as well.
Tried really hard to make the thing work, but it always felt more like luck
if you succeeded.
+nathan katolick
INSTA-AMMORACKED
Hey its sherman!!!
+Coolman785 Gaming I am sorry, but the Jingles help line is currently out
of order and a substitute service has been put in place.
You are on fucking holiday! Go out, see some fucking sights, have an ice
cream, chat up some girls/boys (unless you are quite old and then that is
inappropriate and I recommend chatting up women/men) do something other
than stare at a monitor all day..
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