It’s finally here! Wargaming just set sail and shipped World of Warships into Open Beta – here are my initial impressions two weeks in.
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World of Warships || Open Beta Impressions
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Actually they did. In the early days of the open beta of world of tanks
they sayed to wot it is a in german ” eine action geladene kriegssulation”
or in englisch a war Simulation full of action. After some months they
deleted the simulation part in the sentence.
+Axt _moerder Wargaming never said that they were sims. Nobody expects a
sim out of WoT. Nobody ever even mentioned that WoT was supposed to be a
sim. It’s hardly a waste of money if you don’t spend any and it’s hardly a
waste of time for someone who enjoys a rather unique competetive game.
+bewing77 That’s how smart people play. They don’t rush in first and then
spam the chat with “noob team” when they die (even though they were focused
by 2-3 tanks/ships). You should always have support, especially if you’re a
battleship. Same goes for WoT.
+Richard Gustafsson It doesn’t matter where he was aiming. Shells arc over
long distances. Barrels are pointed upwards at a high angle. They’re not
firing directly at the ship, they’re firing at the sky. Gravity does the
rest by pulling the shells down obviously. The shells have an arcing
trajectory, they’re not fired straight where you point them.
+ultraboy222
He should still be hitting the mountain, he wasn’t aiming through the
mountain
+Richard Gustafsson The shots obviously arc at long ranges, they don’t go
straight where you shoot at.
+Drumead Josh But you know, no one here cares about WT?
+Jelemy Please forget about WoWP.
Im on Cleveland already and used the (C) Version on Omaha, your AA is
absolute georgious with it an you lose 2 of the Guns, which you doesnt ner
das much, they are the 2 ones one your rear at the top(both on one side)
and the topedos, for me i didnt Need them, as JPN destroyer driver i can’t
work with 5,5km range so i didnt Need them as well, one is enough to give a
broadside in CQB against some BB or Cruiser 😉 … Just try it out, your AA
wont let planes through if you cover some allied BB’s
+timmy3822 Nope. You should always use AP. Belt armor can easily be
penetrated by 305mm+ AP shells. You will melt opposing battleships with AP,
but they’ll also melt you. You’ll be scoring citadel hits rather
frequently. Even if it’s not a citadel hit, a couple thousand damage is
assured, as it’s impossible to overpenetrate a battleship. An AP salvo can
also almost one shot cruisers. A flat trajectory is a good thing at close
range since it won’t hit the armor at an angle, it will hit it flush.
It was in but taken out, can’t Tell ya why :/
ok i understand ty
+Algeria power The last wipe was during the transitions from CB to OB so if
what WG is telling us is true there should be no more wipes.
oh I’m sorry to hear that, I talked about my experience in WoT Blitz (I
don’t play anymore, but I did, and I was good) where I own the some tier 9
and 10 tanks, and the concept is the same, 3 missions that change every
day. In WoT blitz the progress is saved, so that if you have to get 10000
xp with a tier 9 in one day, but you only manage to get 7000, when the
mission appears again you can continue to grind with the 7000xp that you
gained in the past.However, maybe in WoW they did it worse haha
+Master opi I drive a tier 4 and 5 BB which have mega shit AA. Guess what
90% of the daily missions are that I get? Kill things with torps and shoot
down planes, like seriously wtf XD. Daily missions? Waste of fucking
time, they don’t even pay that good, they’re crap.
+HerrRoehrich I found IJN DD to be good at farming them, land a torpedo or
two on a half dozen ships and you got it.
+WindmillStalker Also, when CBT players got the Arkansas Beta BB they also
a full set of flags, ten each.
+HerrRoehrich
Oh right, that makes sense I guess. I forgot about the once a day thing
when it comes to getting flags.
+WindmillStalker No, just play well and get Confederate several times. Once
a day, you can get 10 flags for getting Confederate. I already have 40 of
those flags lying around… and always forget to put them on my ships 😛
+JKSSubstandard nah…not really. low tier us bbs are slow and cumbering.
they just have tons of gunz =)
+NichoTBE Well, US BBs are highly maneuverable and regularly avoid torp
attacks, but they lose some resistance to gun fire for that.
+JKSSubstandard that sucks then, i guess cos i have a US WoT account and an
EU WoWs account and no premium between the two. Yeah i love the Minsikazi
(sp) best destroyer ever. The Kongo is a good battleship but the US ones
seem to have really weak armour as they melt really quick as shown in this
vid with the New Mexico.
+NichoTBE Premium account sharing is live right now. Every ship has its
best and worst parts. While battleships are a joke at times, if you land a
good salvo and instakill a cruiser or DD that was on full health…its
suddenly worth it. My favorites so far are the Japanese destroyers with
their long range torpedoes. You can essentially haunt other ships from
outside spotting range and force then to disengage battle every 30 seconds
or get eliminated.
There is a Bug, they work for every Gun Till 155mm, also Main Battery 😉
+Sebastian Plate Oh just you wait till you get the Omaha and especially the
Cleveland! They’re even more awesome 😀
+pjstonehill444 because they need to fake all the stats to make Russian
ships viable.
+Stern Von Afrika Maybe for you. If you go on the WoWs forums theres entire
threads about the FPS issues. Theres also issues where the audio will start
cutting out every other frame. Just because you have had a perfect
experience doesnt mean everyone else has.
+JKSSubstandard bullshit. never had that problem. runs with smooth 100+ fpa
for me at all times.
+Stern Von Afrika Its in Beta so there have been some performance issues
when a lot of ships are firing in close quarters. They are optimizing a
little more every patch
+CommandoDude Oh really? I guess i’m some kind of a pro player then? I
regulary do 5 to 20k damage against cruisers (tier III and IV currently)
with a single AP salvo. Yes, i do take damage and i am usually set on fire,
but 30 seconds after that salvo they’re dead, the fire is out and my damage
is totally repaired. As good as new. If they aren’t dead, they’re near
death and teammates finish them off. No idea why people complain about
“underpowered” battleships as i surely don’t feel “underpowered”. Of
course, you’ll be torn apart if you get focused by 2 or 3 cruisers, but
this is a team game, you’re not supposed to go alone. You’ll get torn apart
by any combination of 2 or more ships, regardless if they’re firing HE, AP
or torpedos. In the case of cruisers, HE does more damage because AP can’t
penetrate battleships, so HE is the only choice. Against other cruisers, AP
does way more damage than HE. You’ll be scoring citadel penetrations on
other cruisers like crazy.
+TheGreatRakatan HE does more damage than AP, because you don’t do spalling
damage and fire makes up the difference. Battleships are atm hilariously
inept at fighting off Cruisers because of HE spam. Meanwhile BBs need to
pray to RNGesus because dispersion was nerfed so hard for them. Repair
mechanic is lazy design period, Battlestations Midway had a better repair
mechanic and is almost 10 years old.
+CommandoDude HE does considerably less damage than AP, battleships have
gigantic guns that murder ships if you can aim properly, and the repair
mechanic only sucks if you use it the instant you get set on fire, before
even considering that you should probably get out of HE “spam” range before
trying to put the fire out.
I guess like 95% of all new players you got into a battleship, which are by
design a very slow and strategic class where you need to plan stuff often
10minutes ahead of time. Like someone said, Destroyer gameplay is much more
action, but also pretty much the most difficult class to play, so be
warned. Extremely fun and rewarding though.
Try playing Destroyers. Spend half the time on the verge of a heart attack.
. I found Battleships and carriers really slow n dull but Destroyers are so
much fun
+UrbanTarzan Duh I am guessing you are a light tank driver on World of
Tanks. T71 your speed?
+tianle chen time flies when you’re a faggot
+UrbanTarzan Duh Beautiful.
+BustRobot’s Gaming Corner
*Awkward*, OK I should really go to bed. Thanks for the info.
+BustRobot’s Gaming Corner
Could you please direct me to a page where I can confirm that the ship was
classed as a “Fast Battleship”, cause I don’t want to repeat false infos.
The reason I’m pedantic is the ambiguous classification which leads to
playing the ship the wrong way, frustration and many comments in the forum
that the ship is a shitty BB.
I did so, too.
+technowizard78
Oh I know it’s a Battlecruiser – though if we’re going to get ‘really’
pedantic in it’s top configuration it’s actually a “Fast Battleship” – I
was using the term Battleship, because it’s in the Battleship tree.
+BustRobot’s Gaming Corner The Kongo is a battlecruiser not a battleship.
This might seems to be a pedantic distinction but it is not because what
advantage the Kongo and the Myogi have in speed they lack in armour. And if
you play them like real battleships (like the US ones) you play them wrong.
+Marvin Metalhead Small caliber AP shells will still bounce off and be
useless. HE shells are basically your only option if you have smaller guns
than can penetrate the battleships’s armor.
+Marvin Metalhead Depends on the caliber of your guns. Basically anything
below 200mm firing AP at BB’s is useless. for IJN cruisers tier 5 and up
you get 203 mm guns. With HE you can do 2k-5k damage consistently and set
fires, but at longer ranges and with some luck, you can do upwards of 8k
damage with your AP shells. However it requires much more luck to do that
and it’s not worth it since you can get 5k consistently and set fires with
HE. Obviously BB’s should shoot AP at other BB’s at any range, but for
other classes of ships you need to choose the right ammo type, and more
often than not it is going to be HE
+Marvin Metalhead Low caliber AP shells (152mm) are not going to penetrate
the deck since they lose a lot of penetration at long range. At short range
they won’t be able to penetrate hull armor as it’s too thick. In short, you
don’t use AP shells against battleships if you’re playing cruisers. If
you’re in a battleships you should be using AP against everything but
destroyers.
+kvineyard Thank you for this answer. So it’s time to grind hard!
+Krzysztof Dudek It’s been said a lot by Wargaming that they do not plan to
wipe progress from open beta to release. Which really just means the open
beta is the release for all practical purposes. But WG seems to hint that
they are reserving the right to change their mind with little or no notice.
+Peter Melicher The difference between Japanese torpedoes and American
torpedoes is the range. The Americans are very short range.
+bla4547 I never lost a gunnery duel against a cruiser. No idea what you’re
complaining about. A cruiser just can’t beat a BB. It just can’t, not by
itself. Of course, we’re talking about two equally skilled players. I
usually get a hit or a couple hits before the cruiser even starts firing.
An AP salvo can almost one shot a cruiser, but it will mostly halve their
HP. Yes, you’ll take damage and most probably be set on fire, but all of
that will be repairable by the unique ability that you can use 3 freaking
times. The tier 4 Kawachi has pretty shitty range, yes, but it’s the only
example. The range gets absurdly high after tier 4, it goes above 20km.
Battleships are not underpowered at all, you just don’t know how to play
them. I don’t know what you want them to do. Make them super accurate even
though they outrange everything? Give them even more HP even though they
have the most of every other ship? Make them as nimble as destroyers? Give
them 5 times increased firing rate so they can match cruisers with their
305mm+ guns? Battleships are extremely good in good hands of course. Skill
has the biggest influence on your performance, it’s just that your not good
enough (yet) and you’re blaming the game for your incompetence. I never had
a bad game in a battleship (although i’m only at tier IV, but i doubt you
even got there since you’re complaining so much). I did have mediocore
games, but that’s due to my lack of skill, not because battleships are bad.
Seems to be hard capped at that too. When firing AP I only do 1000dmg on
overpen, 3300dmg on good pen or 10000 on citadel pen. Nothing inbetween.
Then suddenly out of nowhere 1600dmg or other random number, dunno what
those are supposed to be.
+bla4547 I would kill to do 1600-3100 damage with each shell XD. But it’s
still beta, and a lot of peeps are complaining about it, so it’ll be
altered prolly lol
+Adrian Tepes I do that. I bloody do that. But the problem is that my skill
has no influence whatsoever on my damage it seems. I just went 1v1 with a
Wyoming in a Miyogi in the last moments of the game, we were roughly the
same HP. The range was 7km, I had the lead good, but most of my shots went
either over his ship or fell short, and the ones that did hit, only did
inbetween of 1600-3300dmg. I did what I was supposed to do, I scored
multiple pentrations right into the middle of his ship below the smoke
stacks, below the guns, close above waterline, higher above waterline…
about a thousand dmg was all I was getting, once or twice 3300dmg.
meanwhile he just fired HE and absolutely rekt me. Like I’m saying the
citadel hits are just luck, the damage model in this game is absolutely
inconsistent. If I don’t get a citadel pen when I hit him right above the
waterline in a flat angle below the smoke stacks, then where the fuck else
should I be shooting? The bridge?!
+bla4547 Ok, you’ve been saying this a lot, but that simply doesn’t happen
to me XD. Here’s some actual advice, start the game by engaging at long
range, then get close to wounded ships and tear them to shreds. You’ll do a
lot better that way lol
+thegeneral123 The fire coused by HE shells turns the life of the BB into
some serious pain! I think WG should consider to change the current HE-fire
vs BB mechanics. You cannot catch the Cruisers most of the times, so they
just spam the HE on you. I think they should buff the secundary guns on the
BBs too.
+thegeneral123 Because I can 1-2 shot cruisers with AP from my huge deck
guns, and you generally have longer range than they do.
+Joe Crasse Let me guess, you hang at the back and miss a lot at extreme
range? Yes that is easy to do. A good cruiser captain will get you at the
edge of his range and bombard you with HE spam. You will succumb to fires.
Or if you are really unlucky a DD will slip through the net and close on
you and give you 6 torps at 2km. Something I like to do.
I got so fed up of driving a BB, I started learning the DD route. I’m
getting 2-3 big kills every game now in a DD.
BBs are too vulnerable in this game.
+thegeneral123 Dude, I decimate cruisers in BB’s. You have to start
rethinking the way you sail those bad boys.
Wtf the Hashidate is waaaaaay better than the Erie what are you talking
about
+German-HEAT- Lol wut? Wanting new content between a closed test beta and
open beta? What fucking world do you live in?
+German-HEAT- Seriously? The open beta just got released for fucking gods
sake. Priority is squishing bugs and improving the game untill the final
release, not releasing more content. There’s also only a couple of
premiums, nothing bad about that.
+Azure Gearsts Just wait to use your repair skill until you aren’t getting
showered with shells from a cruiser.
+Azure Gearsts My rule of thumb is…DDs always fire HE because if you are
needing to use your guns in a DD, you are lighting a fire and running away.
In a cruiser, use HE against DDs and BBs and AP against cruisers. DDs are
weak to HE and cruisers should be doing as much module damage as possible
to BBs, meanwhile cruiser AP is the easiest way to citadel an enemy. In
battleships, always fire AP.Penetration is your friend and if you have to
fire at a DD, chances are you are already dead to his torpedoes
+ultraboy222 thanks
+Azure Gearsts I don’t agree with that. The game is definitely about ammo
switching and maneuvering. People who complain about either HE or AP just
didn’t grasp the concept yet. Play a bit more or find a guide on youtube
and your performance will improve greatly. Citadel penetrations and AP are
the real damage dealers.
+Sackshka
has to be! Half life 3 confirmed
+Raz0rking all ilIuminati mate
+Sackshka i have to think about epic rap battles of history
now…coincidence, aint it?
+Dante Delgadillo no probs 🙂
+Sackshka thank you, i am just installing game right now :3
+John Herbold Yeah lol, having a bad time getting flags in my BB atm, there
are really only 1 or 2 that are even possible to get by deliberate actions
in a BB. Even then it still relies heavily on rng. Might have no choice
but to actually buy them to get a fair fight.
+Shino Obata Arkansas is pronounced Arkensaw, but Kansas is pronounced
Kansas. Odd but true.
+Shino Obata People from Arkansas allways bitch if you say Ar-ken-sis, they
pronounce it Ar-ken-saw, so I am sticking to it.
+Alex Mitchell Makes sense, should have known it XD
+Shino Obata Nah, pronounced as Ar-kan-saw. Upgrade slots are available on
all ships passed tier 2 (or 3?). o7
Saw is correct tho it may be another one of those deals where it depends on
what area you live in. Like the 2 completely different ways of saying Pecan
+newhoped People implying the game hasn’t been in beta (and other tests)
for many months. Best intelligence.
+newhoped So you uninstalled a ‘beta’ game because it wasn’t balanced and
finished?
K, bye.
Unbalanced match making and way too strong IJN CVs at the moment.
+newhoped Cool, now we won’t have you in a game complaining.
+acyde125 Probably not the Cleveland or else he’d be jerking off instead of
complaining
+johnfarscape I don’t think you realize that every game which was in
closed/open beta has gone through it. The game is now available to public,
so you shouldn’t be surprised that some childs or idiots gets to play and
ruin the battles.
There’s also another possible reason. Open beta means that new players
comes along. The same as you learned game and was noob at Closed Beta, the
same they starting their journey on Open Beta. Just give it a time and
battles will look much better.
That was kinda my point. In closed beta we all had no idea what to do but
players helped each other out like if someone didn’t know how to manually
drop bommer torpedos or something someone on the team would tell them how.
Overall the whole experience was very enjoyable . Played since the start of
beta and I cant think of a single argument or intentional team damage. . I
couldn’t play for a few days but when I get back the games gone into open
beta and my first game back at tier 1 a guy goes off on his own right
through the middle of the map n gets killed. Next 15 mins he spends whining
we are all noobs and no support then constantly tells the enemy team where
we are on the map. . Thought it might just be a one off but after getting
my first destroyer a guy on my team launches a spread of torpedos straight
into my side then calls me idiot in chat and said I should look where I was
driving. . Another guy team killed me so he could kill the enemy carrier
before I got it. . Just a few examples of the dozens so far. . . Anywhoo
the point I was trying to make is that something needs to be done by
wargaming to stop the same thing spoiling wows that spoiled wot. The report
a player thing does nothing.
+johnfarscape sure those toxic players are a pain no doubt about it and i
can imagine that the atmosphere was nicer in alpha or closed beta … but
all this complaining about people dont know how to play the game somewhat
sickens me because well yes in oposite to you closed beta testers those
people have their first battles in a new game at the moment so how should
they know how to play it?
If you played closed beta you would know. Players then were really nice.
Helpfull. Polite. and sportsmanship was common. Got a lot and gave out a
lot of comliments on gameplay etc. . Now its like WOT with offensive chat
and the first guy to die blaming the rest of his team and calling everyone
noobs. Just seems a shame . Maybe if Wargaming actually done something
about toxic players rather than the current report system which as we all
know does nothing it would improve everyones enjoyment.
+johnfarscape That’s literally every multiplayer game ever, I don’t know
what you’re going on about.
+DetectiveMuffins 25 Airport
+The Warlord of the Rising Sun Solving this involves actually thinking
about when you use your repair skill. If you use it the second you catch on
fire and you are still being shot at, then you might as well have saved it
until you were out of range or sight.
+The Warlord of the Rising Sun But I bet you enjoy those 20k damage citadel
hit. HE is a way to punish BB’s when they do a bad moves. I play BB’s and
have no problem taking out cruiser lobbing HE.
+The Warlord of the Rising Sun I’ve only had about 10-15 games as a
battleship, but i never had that problem. Tier IV currently. I mean, i
never got into a situation where a couple of ships were targetting me. You
gotta use your environment and always have support. If you’re getting fired
upon by 2-3 cruisers you’re gonna get melted in no time and you’re gonna be
burning like Vietnamese jungles after multiple napalm strikes. A single
cruiser is no problem though. About two AP salvos are usually enough to
destroy it and if it survives your supporting ships are going to finish it
off. I might catch fire once or twice, but oh well. You forget that you’re
the only class that can repair the damage (and you can repair A LOT of
damage).
+The Warlord of the Rising Sun I feel you, man..
+adeafkid Don’t you touch them!
+Luca Menikheim truly khorosho
You habe to be one beiing with the Island :O
+knotwrite Progression != grind, but naturally people who don’t like the
gameplay are going to say it’s grindy, but that’s just because they don’t
enjoy actually playing the game.
+knotwrite Being a stock vehicle in this game is not a death sentence,
contrary to WoT.
+knotwrite It’s not. It’s not even close to the WoT grind.
+knotwrite If you play in a strong platoon (meaning lots of wins), use
premium account (+50% exp), use flag for +experience (+50% exp) and you
perform well, you can have tier 10 in 4 days, after like 250+ battles? It
took me 18 games played in tier 6 carrier to unlock tier 7. Ofc no noob
will ever get these massive amounts of exp per game, but it is the same in
WoT, where also new players get like 200-400 avg exp per game.
so you expect tier 10’s to be had in a few days? of course it’s going to be
a grind, no one said it wasn’t. we’re fanboys because we told him how it’s
not as painful as WoT?
edit; most games are decided in ~15-20 mins just like WoT btw..
+Mstrike Mstrike This isn’t a press account. If this were a press account,
QB wouldn’t be utterly broke at less than 300k credits. 😛
It’s just that, depending on how much you played in closed beta, you got
advanced levels and their respective rewards at the release of open beta,
plus any gold and/or premium ships you bought during CBT. e.g. I played up
to tier 6 in closed beta and got advanced to level 6 and got my Yubari and
3000 gold, as well as 2 of each signal flag when the game reset for open
beta. Apparently QB, having played more/better and having bought more
premiums/gold during closed beta, got advanced farther and recieved a few
more signal flags.
+QuickyBabyTV Hey, How do I get a German sounding crew, on the Asia
server. What is the best mod for it?
+Joe Blobdob If slow sucks, then grind to T4 DDs. Fast pace action there if
you need it.
+QuickyBabyTV
qb i think you made an error when discussing the commander skills at 6:10
which i made myself. the second column of commander skills is for secondary
armament only (The first column is for main battery or player controlled
guns) and they have put a label on it but the writing is black so its very
very easy to miss. this means that you are actually unable to increase the
gun rof and range on low tier cruisers or on destroyers instead its only
really useful for battleships.
+Flaviu Crystian It looks incredibly slow and boring. I wouldn’t go near it
and I predicted when I first saw it that it would eventually fail as a
game. I haven’t seen anything to change my view.
+QuickyBabyTV Well, you open by saying its now open for everyone, but alas,
it is not. I can only play with inverted mouse, its just what I’m used to.
WoT, WoP and every other game I play, I play with inverted mouse. Guess
what? WoWs doesn’t have the option yet, its like trying to play with your
mouse in the wrong hand, practically impossible. I’ve ticked WG who say
that they’ll implement it sometime in the future, but not soon. Looking at
the forums this has been asked for since Alpha! Why are they alienating a
good portion of their player base? If you have any influence whatsoever,
could you ask WG to look at fixing this issue? Surely, its only a few lines
of code?