World of Warships – Scharnhorst Review – Cruiser’s Worst Nightmare
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that US flag above the Reich flag ^^
Chase, some words of comfort for you in regards to Jinglesgate – those of
us who have followed you for some time, know that you are far too much of a
class act and far too intelligent to knowingly violate an NDA. I saw your
post on the forums, where some of the sheeple were attacking you and
accusing you of being a source of the leaks. IMO, if these people were so
stupid as to not even engage in a nanosecond’s worth of critical thinking
before doing so, then you’re far better off not having them on your channel
to begin with. It may sound like cold comfort right now, but in the end
that might be the one silver lining out of this whole mess – these idiots
have exposed themselves for what they are, and in the long run your channel
will be better off for being rid of them.
The USN fans will just have to wait for the Alaska’s *grin*. I like this
ship. It’s going to force players against it to pay attention. Awesome ship
for those that know when to be aggressive and when to fence at a distance.
+2 match and non lemming enemy please
Those Secondaries look to be really good…
+iChaseGaming i would swap aft for manual aa as that is what makes german
bb aa dps good a derpitz without it is fresh meat for a cv one with it was
is kinda scary to equal tier cvs. even t9 loose quite a few planes.
how good is the penetration on cruiser armour ? heard the 283mm bounced on
angled cruiser of equal tiers ? that true ?
I wonder about Scharnhorst’s Fire Reduction modifier, because the Tirpitz
effectively serves as a floating barbecue for my Atago, and ESPECIALLY my
Kutuzov! As in my Kutuzov I can keep firing at them from EXTREME range
accurately, where if and when they try to fire back all I need to do
usually is change speed and course as I sail.
But overall? TAKE MY MONIES NAO WARGAMING!!!
She has a listed gold cost of 9500, just 500 more than that of the Atlanta,
so she should cost riiiiight around $42 – $44 without any discount or
bundle.
So I should be able to afford her, I never bought the Tirpitz as she never
appealed to me that greatly, I generally do not like Battleships, but
Scharnhorst is a Battlecruiser, with INSANELY fast turret traverse, good
speed, decent protection – and very nice HIGH VELOCITY 283mm guns that do
consistent AP damage, with torpedoes that will be usable and effective at
times! Sounds Like VERY MUCH GOOD TIMES TO BE HAD!! XD
Actually what comes to my mind is, how good is the KMS Scharnhorst in the
Credit income role?
Hearing that at the moment the Tirpitz is the best Ship to get Credits.
Also @Ichasegaming good review on the ship, found it gratifying, would
appreciate to see some high tier playing with it tho.
Greetings from Germany ;)
Concealment expert becuase diverse and interesting skil choices :3
That harrassing –> decisive engagement pattern, I think that’s what
happens with the Tirpitz as well? In a way, these two premium German BBs
are very similar.
iChase if you have 18+ points German captain on any of yours accounts try
to use hybrid build with demo expert, manual AA and AFT.
Furutaka has with the stock Kannons 22 seconds reload
Dunkerque, when ???
Maybe I am confused but… Wasn’t Scharnhorst faster than Tirpitz? Why in
game this is exactly the opposite?
YEAHHHH!~~~ GERMANS BB ARE COMINGGGGGgggggg………
*sits down and continue to wait for Brit ships*
hmm you do not seem to have the same problem jingles has with playing the
scharnhorst.
18:09 RIP that minekaze lmao
when is she buy able?
Chase what modpack do you use to see the damage you have done in the top
right corner?
AWWW YISSSS THANK YOU iChase for releasing this as soon as the NDA is
lifted. anyway 1 question when i brawl with her, should i shoot enemy at
main belt, or the upper belt armor? can she citadel a nagato, colorado or
other bb equal/higher tiered? please answer me, it would made my day
i hope you feel better???!?!?!
she has the lowest Caliber because she was a battle-/heavycruiser
I mean, am I playing the same game as you? The only reason I can see this
ship is because I installed a tech tree expansion mod, but in the vanilla
version of the game I can’t see them
The German battleships are going to destroy all the CA’s in this game from
being playable at launch.
in summary this ship is perfect to wonder around with Atlanta and Cleveland
(and Tirpitz).
junk ship. Getting tired of the commercials with shills posting top-tier
dominations against broadside scrubs.
Sooo, how much will it cost? (haven’t watched full video)
It seems abit overpowered to me.
Hi iChase! Looks like a player called Aquitanic appeared in that first
clip…perhaps next time we play at the same time, I won’t be on the enemy
team 3 or 4 times in a row again. xD
the EU guys are so jellos, they are still under nda
Bro, you are talking way to much in your videos.
Just show us the gameplay with a little commentating, why u go all in on
26minute speech without any breathing or pause.
Its really annoying, i dont think anyone rly cares what ur saying anyway.
that moment when the pensacola, a similar tier cruiser has worse
detectibility than a battleship
Her? KMS ships were men.
I think i found a sentence with 7 reallys 😀 But nice review anyway 🙂 …
now I just need money
NDA lifted on German BBs?
If you like Tirpitz, I believe you will like Scharnhorst:)))
lol after watching mingles with jingles yesterday, its so true about the
NDA between the WG EU and its contributers and WG NA and its contibuters.
How do you add skins to warships?
german sausage
If the next season of ranked battles come out the same as the last season
will this be a popular ship for midrank ranked battles?
can someone tell me y the fuck the german ships have shitty dispersion?
Secondary build worth it on a captain who is going to be in this ship, the
Tirpitz, and the tier 10 german BB?
How much does it cost? i don’t care i just want :D
Sounds like I’m going to love this ship. The way you describe to play her
is how I play my Tirpitz. Since the dispersion is awful on that, I’ll be
use to this one. :)
IChase what do you think about focusing scharnhorst on secondaries?
Changing concealment on manual secondaries, and give him additional module
for secondaries?
ichase this isn’t a battle ship.
she’s a beauty, I can’t wait to use my money i earned this summer
Scharnhorst kills CV at long distance – historically correct! :)
Great vid as always Chase! If I have the Tirpitz already (and I love her)
is it worthwhile to buy the Scharnhorst? Is there a different enough
playstyle to warrant it or do they play very similarly?
Let me just give WG the link the my bank account, so they can just give me
the ship without me knowing I payed for it XD (at least, it’ll make me feel
better)
I allready have Tirpitz, is it worth getting this to?
She’s more versatile (role playing) than the SMS Tirpitz. Oh yes, cheaper
of the two German BBs.
OP, Please Nerf
Ok wg
Shut up and take my money
I see WG did the same thing with this ship as they did to the
Fubuki…totally lowballed it’s speed. The real Scharnhorst could make 35+
knots, in fact so much that the forward deck being awash all the time was a
real problem, even after they modified the bow. I’m sure this beauty will
still play very well with the qualities it has for the game, and I’ll buy
it, but a shame nonetheless.
glorious 13.1km ninja level detection
I feel so bad for that Aoba.
One does not span HE using Scharnhorst
YEAH Scharnhorst i’ve been dying for a review on her, she’s the queen of
the German navy. I can’t wait to buy her. by the way chase i was wondering,
if they’re having the Scharnhorst as a premium ship do you think they’ll
introduce the Graf Spee as a premium? As always awesome video i’ve been
catching up on all your videos, your sail’n chat #18 sounded pretty crazy.as
always can’t wait for your next video.
OP :D
I threw money at the screen. Where is my Scharnhorst?
well… since she hit HMS Glorious at over 26 KM I think they have screwed
the range and dispersion something fierce
If a BB gets 20 second reloads (Remember IJN cruisers get 15 second reload)
and a ridiculous armor (from a cruiser’s POV), what is the point of
cruisers? Btw, I really want this ship! But the cost is hard to justify
(=to a full console game).
Monitor now busted as piggy bank slammed into it….. jk jk
Was really hoping for an alternate 9 11 incher turret setup for the
Gneisenau. The Myogi didn’t exactly win me over with its 6 gun layout.
The Scharnhorst reminds me of the Alaska Class Large Cruisers, a ship I
desperately wish would be made available.
I wish WG would module the strength of the hulls in WoWS along side the
armor because the Germans and Russians didn’t have the ship building
experience of the Brits, Americans, and even a few French ships. While
German ships didn’t often sink out right from hits they often caused so
much damage that parts of the ship failed to work which was compound by WW1
lay outs of the machinery and building techniques they both used. Same
goes for American torp fail rates and Brit with their generally poor
habitably and low sea ranges.
German Kongo with more guns, better armor, AND torps… seems legit.
Why YouTubers are uploading all these Scharnhorst vids? Does this mean it
is going to be released in a few days?
Almost got lo yang on EU server thanks for vid atleast i know i need to
keep my money for this one :)
Good or bad, she sure is pretty.
Keep up the good work, Chase & good to hear you sounding better.
I WANT IT NOW!!!
I think that in a two carrier match with two enemy Texas’s in sight you
should really be firing HE in the first volleys. It would really help your
team to take out as many of those 40s as possible. A New York class’s
superstructure won’t handle the HE any better than the AP, and you won’t be
getting any citadels anyway.
Also If he had gotten basic fire training he would have shot down quite a
few more planes in support during that opening attack on CV. The mid range
sucks so you have to buff it as much as possible.
Any news on when the release dates are?
iChase, how do you feel German BBs will fitt in to the already wierd BB
world? With this agile ships, isnt it a risk that people will only play
German BB´s amd they loose out om balance?
What’s the teal ribbon on some of your ships?
Do you know how Scharnhorst was sunken. Really brutal stuff. Huge loss of
life. It was sunken out of northern Norway, in freezing waters. Here in
Norway they made a documentary on the Sharnhorst.
Thinking it will be out by the end of the week.
Hey Chase will you also be doing the Dunkerque here soon?
it was said by youtuber who is World of Tanks youtuber fully but … i see
the same problem here in WOWS.
More and more premium ships and less and less normal ships. If they will do
half of time spend for changes for Scharhnorst and couple other premium
ships – for work in all line we would have already i think all lines in
british navy ready and in game …
Loved the fact that in a Scharnhorst you sunk an aircraft carrier, just
like she did in history. Nice rewiew as well Chase 🙂 this is really a
beautiful ship
Ichase would you pick the Scharnhorst over the Tirpitz considering the
price? Is it fun enough? :D
i hope they will add soviet bb british carrier?bb and dd also french navy
and italian navy
isn’t all the german BB’s under the NDA stuff so you should not really be
having this review out? is WG NA so non caring on the NDA rules?
RIP Nagato’s pre-nerf rudder shift. And they made the secondaries
smaller…
As much as it pains me, it seems to be too good. Or it is gonna be hit with
the nerfbat or it wont apear in the shop again as the nikolai
?
You know the EU contributors are not currently allowed to discuss this at
the moment.
“They (battleships) like to just keep pushing to this objective”
except for the majority of the battleships I meet in battle (on my team)
which just prefer to camp all day and stay at max range 24/7…
Chase, what about secondary build with AFT + secondary manual control for
this ship ? is it still possible ?
Is that a seal clubbing division down under?
I can see that WG NA either do not care about NDA or for some reason WG NA
does not have it like WG EU. :S
I don’t see it on the Premium store…
I hope the other German Battleships play like this.
A German Supercruiser huh? I might have to buy this…
Damn fine looking ship. Probably going to pass on this one, bought too
many premiums and I think the price tag will be a lil too high. There’s a
lower tier German premium in the works as well, right? Konig Albert? That
one might be for me. I *would* like to have a German trainer when the new
line comes out, something other than the Emden. Thanks for the thorough
review!
so much for Wargaming’s NDA.
what you didn’t consider with the captain skills is manual AA, which is
also an option for the Tirpitz. I currently don’t use, but you can really
buff up your AA with that, since it only affects high calibre AA guns an
that is exactly where your AA strengh is concentrated.
Pretty ship, Keep them coming.
How come the NA server gets 3x xp for daily win, I know its because of an
event or something but on EU we only get 2x for daily win. :(
Gib *throws money at screen as per instructions* Chase! It’s not working! D:
In all seriousness, nice review as usual. Keep up the awesome work! ^^
they gonna nerf it after most ppl bought it, just like the tirpitz.
I threw a 20oz gold bar at my screen now I need a new screen. Thanks Chase!
Ships looks awesome.
Btw. I havent heard any youtuber pronounce Tirpitz right yet. Its
pronounced “Tierpitz” as in Tier Ten etc. The “pitz” part is right 🙂 Keep
up going strong at those vids!
Today is Scharnhorst Video Day
Fun Fact: Graf Spee once disguised as a Scharnhorst to confuse British
naval intelligence during her rampage in the Atlantic.
My poor wallet
Chase thanks for another great Review,
So between Scharnhorst and Tirptiz, which would you recommend to get?
Considering their unique perks compared to their tech tree
counterparts(Geneisnau and Bismarck).
Overall, the gameplay shown here is exactly as I imagined it to be for this
ship, and I am very much going to consider purchasing this!
Great review as always. Looking very much forward to getting this ship.
I’ll admit I’m bit puzzled why there wasn’t more focus on her secondary
guns and secondary gun builds on her, though. At tier 7, she’s at the first
tier where Manual Secondaries becomes good, and she’s loaded with all HE
guns with good fire chance, without a doubt best at her tier. In brawling
range (7.6km), she can light up another battleship from stem to sterm
really quickly, forcing them to use damage control and putting them into a
position where they won’t be able to fix the flooding from the torps right
after. Plus having hyper accurate HEs would be DDs worst nightmare.
love the look of this ship. can’t wait.
love the look of this ship. can’t wait.
always love your reviews ichase 🙂 the message that popped up towards the
begining of the review reminded me you had been unwell in the last few
days. It’s great to hear your voice back to its usual excellent standard
and i hope you are very much better now. If not, get well soon and rest
easy, keep doing your great vids and i’ll keep doing my bit by adding 1
view and 1 thumbs up to each of them :)
Uhm, WHAT cruiser stood chance against Battleship?
Cruiser get spotted, every battleship in range forgets theirs target and
shot cruiser. Its understandable because ANY hit on cruiser can cause
citadel or even better, detonation. Playing cruisers in current state is
only to feed Battleships easy dmg. For that reason i stopped playing them
and doing doubles only. Its not worth at all.
Yes you can zigzag, make targeting harder, but as above. Any hit from
battleship hurts cruiser badly and because of RNG nature you can never
avoid them all(plus cruisers agility isnt THAT great, CAs specially).
Gunship DD can do same as cruiser, but he got smoke, better concealment and
agility. So whats the point? Escort Battleships for boring 15 minutes,
hoping some planes or DDs come to you? Or ‘realistically’ sit and shot from
behind island?
Yes it gets better on tier 9-10 as you get HP consumable, but otherwise
thank you, no.
They should think about it in WG, because Cruisers sucks.
And with Scharnhorst it’ll be even worse.
iChase, how do the main guns perform against other Scharnhosts? when the
public gets their hands on them, it will be like when the Tirpitz first
went on sale all over again
Chase the Scharnhorst was a battlecurisers not a battleship. Im really
intrested to see how it will preform in the high teirs.
Holy shit, that turret traverse on a BATTLESHIP?
Take my money take all my money PLEASE
This ship is definitely for aggressive ship captains who know how to avoid
bbs.
Also: Wargaming can shut up and take my money!
Nice review and at least you sound a lot better than in the smith review
vid, I’hope you recover from that very quickly! Any idea when you may
review the Dunkerque (As being Dutch we still call it Duinkerken 😉 )
Well, these cruisers had been partially designed to cut off trade convoys
in the atlantic from reaching their british customers. Trade convoys are
guarded by destroyers, armed trade ships and a few cruisers. So essentially
a battle group suited for this task needs to be fast and at least one ship
which can hold the pace of a cruiser but outgun and outlive any cruiser.
And that’s what this ship is, a bigger and meaner cruiser than had been
built up to this time.
I once had a fight 1vs1 with an ARP Kongo in my New Orleans (Kongo
obviously a Division Fail) and won it with relative ease because she showed
me her broadside and I presented solely my bow, letting almost every shot
of her ricochet – her secondaries made me worry, though. At the start I had
just 8k HP left. So I used my six barrels up front to pummel her with AP –
end of story. I guess playing a Scharnhorst would be roughly equal. Like,
for instance, taking a T9-heavy cruiser into a T6-battle.
Speaking of heavy cruisers, I’m still a bit sad that the Deutschland-class
didn’t make it into the game. That would’ve been a good T6-cruisers due to
it’s paper armour, relatively slow speed and powerful, but few guns. If the
Dunkerque will be T6, this would absolutely justify the placing of the
Deutschland-class, since the Dunkerque had been developed to best these
ships and hunt them down.
I could hear the demonic laughs from WG hq, they sure know how to drain our
wallet
How are you able to test this if it hasn’t been released yet?
i am so getting this
Jingles is going to be soooo mad
Isn’t all of this still under a NDA?
Pretty sure Wargaming is more than happy to allow Youtubers to review a
ship and then nerf the shit out of it before they release it to the public.
I don’t think they should let early access reviewers put content out on a
ship and then still be able to tweak its stats.
Thinking about it is like the Atlanta small guns quick reload tier 7
that is one nice slick looking battleship!
This sounds like a review of a up armord york (not a bad thing i loved that
wierd ship)
SCHARNHORST!!!!
what about getting skill for 4 points that increse dmg to plane by higer
calliber than 85 mm aa?
My wallet hates Wargaming.. it really does.
Will be interested to see how she compares against Gneisenau. And if the
first hull Gneisenau will have the same 13″ guns with the 15″ ones being a
B or C hull (which would make sense to me).
Looks nice
You know how before you can be arrested, you need to be read your rights,
and they call it “The Miranda Rule?”
I’m beginning to think that the “subject-to-change” disclaimer should be
called “The Arizona Rule,” following the forum meltdown that marred its
release.
YEEHAW CHASE FINALLY DOES A SCHARNIE VID! Maybe that means she’s
available!!!
*looks at WG prem shop* lolnope
Bollocking bastards! Oh well, I’m still shelling out massive amounts of
cash for this thing when it comes available.
I’m starting to see why the super testers thought this thing was OP before
it had its stats changed
YEEHAW CHASE FINALLY DOES A SCHARNIE VID! Maybe that means she’s
available!!!
*looks at WG prem shop* *lolnope*
Bollocking bastards! Oh well, I’m still shelling out massive amounts of
cash for this thing when it comes available.
Shcarnhorst was never a battleship. she was always a battle-cruiser despite
what ppl have said.
they should really do the Alaska like this as well.
iChase, I subscribed your channel for almost two weeks now, but I cannot
receive notice of any of the videos you posted. I searched so hard on
Google to find this one. Such a great video!
I always have a question to ask you: for a Yamato, is scout plane a better
choice or catapult fighter?
Shut up and take my Money!! :D
The Mighty Jingles: new german BBs, but cant talk about them.
IChase: heres a full game review of a German BB. Check it out!!! 😀 gotta
love being in North America Wargaming server.
#becauseamerica
Meanwhile the EU community contributors are still under NDA and are
complying with it. NA server, the Mos Eisley of WOWS. Congrats on the
exclusive views.
That game… That was a spanking in its truest form, seal clubbing’s
galore!
That ND agreement though XD
Don’t run away you’ll only die tired
Finally the game is going in the balance way
Is he allowed to do this? Like, didn’t wargaming say they weren’t allowed
to talk about the German BB’s?
Finally, Chase. <3
NDA’s been lifted already? sweet!
Beautiful ship.
Any idea when the German ships will be available to public
Wargaming: Introducing the Scharnhorst! She can…
Me: SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!
how did u buy it? I’m on sea server, so is this na only?
Oh joy, another Battleship that will inspire the “yolo” strategy I see so
many BB players use… Can’t wait to get rammed by this thing! -_-
OH that nda. mmmmm.
Basically a “shut up and take my money” ship, lol
U sound better. Stream on tomorrow night? Couple questions regarding the
Scharnhorst. Wat r the selections for her “air wing” and do u have any idea
when both she and the Dunkerque will b on sale? Speaking of Dunkerque, will
u b doing a ship review on her?
Are you flying the Stars and Stripes?
Ridiculously OP ship is OP.
Thanks for all of the info as always!
Other than the smaller caliber on her main guns, it sounds a bit like she’s
just a down-tiered Tirpitz to me. Her guns only fire 5 seconds faster, her
turrets do turn much quicker, but they’re both fast enough to stay with
your team’s cruisers and are much better at dealing with enemy cruisers
than same-tiered battleships.
Which of course means that once she’s released for sale it’s going to be a
case of me throwing money at the monitor and going “shut up and take my
monies!” most likely.
Just a question What’s with the 200%XP on all this ships ?
so how long have you been waiting to post this vid chase? :p
How can you show this? Wasn’t there a NDA involved? I thought there was a
two week no tell thing going on
funny how jingles is under nda. and your doing this.
ships like this should be in a seperate tech line called battlecruiser
Cruiser spelled wrong in thumbnail ;)
short question i knwo this isnt really fitting here but is there
information when the repair discounts will come permantly and when will
they test it on eu server?
do you know that someone made a Know Your Ship episode starring
Scharnhorst?
Cost ?
The German battleships are not to be reviewed yet I thought?
IWTCIBBS
Wow finally NDA lifted! Prepared my wallet long long ago!
what’s her price tag?
I have never bought a premium anything in my 5 years of wargaming
playing…. I think that’s about to change. this is the seal clubbers
dream.
Release date?
Jingles posts a video about the unfairness of the EU/US embargo and iChase
posts a video about the Scharnhost on the same day. I must say, that is
amusing. It’s Wargaming NA’s fault, mind you, not the WoWs NA Youtubers. :)
She looks very good
uhhh are you allowed to show us this?
i’m cofused where do you buy this
more than 260m of dispersion?
according to my experience with BBs that come with way less dispersion,
this ship, and if that characteristic is similar with other German BBs….
These will be way too frustrating for me, I want to say it’s my crappy aim,
not RNGsus having a laugh, when none of my shots hit
I thought of the opposite when WG EU said “german accuracy”
Really nice video Chase. I recommend your channel to everyone I know who
plays because of the consistently high quality. gg
When will it be released?
Are crusiers a new in game class chase? :p
Great vid as always :)
Those 11-inch guns are looking pretty good, I must say.
Although, I can’t quite understand why her sister Gneisnau doesn’t have an
option for those 11-inch guns, instead wielding 15-inchers.
I mean, I’m all for 15-inch guns, don’t get me wrong. But why not have the
option of those 11-inch guns? The Scharnhorst-class battlecruisers (as we
all know) were originally fitted with 11-inch artillery.
Ah well. Still waiting for the German BBs as (im)patiently as ever. Great
review, iChase. o/
Great vid Chase! When might we see the German BB tech tree overview?
My fav ship with Prinz Eugen
how will it perform compare to others tier 7 and 6 BBs on Ranked Battles?
or is Scharnhorst recommended for RB?
Hmmmm, that’s some nice looking German engineering. And torpedoes, I’m
gonna love this. Although my bank account says NO!
But money doesn’t buy happiness right?
i love little Scharnie :-)
Pssst! It says “crusier” in the thumbnail :)
Well if you can do this video now that means, it is not too long til she
arrives?
any idea about the price?
When I saw the vid go up my first thought was “Oh Jingles will be such a
salty old sailor now” :D
I thought you were on a non-disclosure agreement. Has the agreement
expired? Jingles mentioned this. He has not released it yet.
I’m just going to wait to the French Battleship comes up because I want
that French battleship that thing turns like a cruiser and goes 29.5 knots
‘Battleship’
Am i the only one who thinks that the Scharnhorst and German BB line in
general are overrated?
Theres always so much “hype” around a new line, all of which dies off about
a day later
WHOOOOO! SHCARNHORST!
*looks at emtpy wallet*
*sobs in my corner*
Chase please make review for the dunkerque if its available :)
sigh a german battleship review even though it’s not meant to be talked
about
IChase do you know when it’s coming out if you can say
NDA was lifted?
Should I get the atago or wait for this?
FIRST!!!