Hey guys, today we take a look at the curios case of the Lenin, the TVIII Premium Soviet Battleship, that….no one really said much about, despite being God-Tier, enjoy!
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Most players have little experiences fighting against this ship, she is an unknown.
I have always said that Lenin was the peak of Russian Bias
Good point. When i played T8 this ship really is a pain in the a** when you face it. It’s so incredibly tanky and has hard hitting guns.
Even with a OP Musashi when you see only her front you do more or less nothing against it.
Matchmaking is pure cancer, virtually every game in tier 8 in tier 10 games.
@Tobias Time fax!!! I give up with that bs
@Tobias Time There is a protection. The matchmaker will only uptier you a maximum of 40% of your games.
@Tobias Time Honestly, it doesn’t change much. You literally don’t notice the difference.
I liked the Lenin a lot for a bit when it first came out. Then something changed in the guns. Perhaps a slight nerf or something. I had some fun games in it, and it trained my “not overpowered at all” captain a lot.
Most people probabl showed broad 1 time in this instantly blew up and then just never played it again
Lenin actually has better armor on paper but, has those cheek and rear end that are a big yikes sometimes.
I know I’m the odd ball here but the dispersion and reload on the guns make the ship feel closer to average than OP.
Comparing to the Vlad, which is a decent ship. This thing has more range, tank better, more accurate, handle better
Agreed. I own it. Don’t play her much because of the reload time.
My sentiments exactly
SLM is the oddball lol, this ships is only marginally better than vlad
Meanwhile people scream Sinop being OP at tier 7 with even less accurate guns and same reload time
Hmm
I feel like it’s because she got released before WG decided to put the “if deemed necessary, balance changes will be applied to X ship” so they can’t nerf her directly, it’s a legal issue now. So best they could do i remove her.
Also, her citadel is a torp magnet. most of the time, if you get hit by a torp where your citadel is, it’ll do max damage, torp protecting does fuck all there.
Its not a legal issue, and it never was. They can nerf any premium they want, it was always that way. The only thing that changed, is they didnt want to piss off people by nerfing premiums, and now they put this caveat so they presumably will get pissed less now. But it was never a legal issue. Especially since most of the ship stats are actually hidden. They can for example change sigma values , and say they never advertised the ship having any particular value here.
@shha22 actually it is illegal without prior knowledge. Imagine buying a car and a month later the manufacturer decided to lower the hp of it and make the gas usage higher.
Digital good or not, you paid real money for it.
@NecroFlex 1st. The ship isnt yours. You are just given access to it. What you actually buy, its permission to play a WG owned ship (which they can adjust as they see fit because its theirs).
2nd. It was always in Eula that they can change the ships as they see fit. It really HAD to be there. Nerfing ships like we talk about it is one thing. But the same argument you make, would be just as valid, if the ship was so “bugged” in a way that simply ensured your win etc. What if some bug made your ship instantly destroy every other ship on the map when you pressed repair party? It wouldnt even have to be on release – maybe it accidentally got in some patch, and you jumped on the occassion and bought it than. So every game has something like that in Eula – just in case.
3rd. They actually reserve the right to do any adjustments to your account that they see fit – for example to ban cheaters, and to not have to deal with a lawsuit to actually prove someone cheated. Its not absolute – if they decided to alter your account “frivolously” and without merit, in some jurisdictions you could sue them. But as long as they can reasonably claim its for “health of their game” and not out of malice or personal bias against you , they are basically free to do anything they want.
4th. In any case, you could only argue about the things that are presented to you. Things that they explicitly advertise when selling it to you. They can still alter underlying game mechanics
Overall the whole “we wont nerf premiums” that they adopted, wasnt because they couldnt. It was simply to boost sales – sort of a *UNENFORCEABLE* contract with players – so they feel safer spending their money. But at the end of the day, it was always just their reputation on the line – not actual legal obligation.
@shha22 So i should be free to get all of my money back if they decide to shut the game down for good?
I paid for the access of content in the game, if i am not allowed to access said content anymore as a result of them killing the game, then i should get my money back.
Oh right, nvm, laws are made to protect companies, not consumers.
SO you’re telling me that when WoT needed to change/nerf a tank and gave refund options to players, that was from their own kindness?
Glad I managed to grab the Lenin two months ago. This thing can easily stall a cap against 5 other ships if you just don’t get torped
She was my first premium ship that I bought, always saif how good she is, really is greatly overlooked.
Over on Legends we only speak about Lenin in hushed whispers and dark corners
I’m so glad I picked her up. It’s a top tier seal clubbing machine.
You don’t actually have to go bow in cause Lenin has good back firing angle
Why? Because while it is a good ship, it is not at the level for being in the soviet brat pack.
I feel like its just like with the Cossack, its insanely powerful but nobody talks about it.
I thought I was only one! Cossack is insane, idk why no one plays it.
I may not be great at DDs but even I can do pretty well in a Cossack. She is quite fun
Cossack is the best tier 10 DD the British have at tier 8.
WG emplyoee: “Which goodies for OUR Nelson, Comrades ?”
WG Staff: “DA !”
Soft armor for USSR BBs, slow reload on the guns, you have to expose the weakness of the ship more to get that third turret out. Also the ship feels just sluggish compared to other BBs of the tier. It is a good ship, but not stupid powerful; you have to know how to use your armor to really make it work.
aka. Bow tank and forget you had a third turret. Jus like playing every russian bb and high tier heavy cruiser
Her handling is average at tier 8 actually, with 840m turning circle and 13.5s rudder
The reason it was overlooked was because the Vladivostok (when they were both introduced) was the best Tier 8 BB. And honestly is better
King George 5 literally Lion with no superheal and no one talk about it.
The Lenin is an awesome powerhouse of a ship! I call her “DevStrike” because that is literally what you will be doing most of the time. She is everything MB said and much more!
She has the sigma of a Stalingrad, the Alpha strike of a Yamato, and the speed and agility of a Cruiser!
Best tier 8 BB is the game hands down!!!