Loading...Hey guys! Today we have a replay from Katsu in his Tier VIII Premium British Battleship Vanguard, and…..oh boy.
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Music:
Ross Rowley:
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Music by Karl Casey @ White Bat Audio
Outro Music: Stranger Think- C418
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Music: Stranger Think- C418
Ross Rowley: https://music.apple.com/us/artist/ross-rowley/1524460114
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The poor Vanguard a very high tech ship for her time the last Royal Navy Battleship ever built. Screwed Over and Abused by Wargaming, so sad,, I apparently I saw Vanguard whilst a child but I was to young to remember. Yes I’m that Old 🍺🇬🇧🍺
not really considering the main battery guns were smaller than most of its counterparts and were completely outdated at the time
@Shadow It’s not so much the age of the guns, guns age very well, it was the very modern for the time target/range finding equipment that made it special.
I’m mean who would you bet on in a gun fight? The guy with 20/20 vision and a 1837 colt revolver, or the legally blind guy with a 2022 Glock pistol?
@Shadow She would have been quite good at chewing up the Soviet Cruisers of the era and apart from the USA who else had anything better that was’nt at the bottom of the sea, after all the US/UK were on the same side back then 🍺🇬🇧🇺🇸🍺
@Shadow not at all. The 15inch BL mk1 was arguably the finest all round heavy naval gun ever taken to sea. The was backed up by a post war US navy report. The guns, mountings and turrets were completely rebuilt by Harland & Wolff, their armour was increased and they were essentially new mountings afterwards. Designed to be equipped with supercharges from launch, firing the new Cardonald shells, the guns had a penetration only slightly less than the US 16inch super heavy rounds. A magnificent sea boat, Vanguard was arguably the finest gun platform the RN ever commissioned. In Exercise Mainbrace she was able to maintain near full speed in the teeth of a gale whereas USS Wisconsin was forced to slow down. Her main battery had full remote power control (something the Iowa’s never had) married to the finest fire control radar available. Victory in naval combat normally goes to the ship who hits hardest first – and in this regard Vanguard was amply equipped to do so. Built as the final battleship by the navy which built more battleships and fought more heavy gunnery duels than any other in history it’s safe to say her designers knew what they were doing. I think it’s such a shame WG have butchered her stats because she should be so much better. I still find myself having decent games in her though regardless.
I am getting ready for work and can’t really pay attention and watch. But Sea Lord describes the action of the battle so well. I can still figure out what’s going on.
WHAT THE HELL HAVE I JUST WITNESSED?! Tier 5 DD killing a tier 8 Carrier (a Hornet no less witch has like 8kms range on those 127mms), carriers throwing themselves at the enemy, and this mad lad in a Vanguard gets a solo warrior. Dame, wish all matches where this crazy.
I still remember my ptsd when I played in the neustrashimy against a hornet (1.st time) and I was just about to reach him, when his bombers absolutely destroyed me. I was left with about 1/4 and what was me trying to dodge it. If a CV can and tries, it should’ve absoluty blasted the DD. ;-;
Its like a chihuaha chasing away a bear
Vanguard is my guilty pleasure. I like her a lot and she is one of my highest win rate ships
Took it out in ranked yesterday and loved it. Very nimble for BB and HE damage damage and pen is awesome.
I honestly like vanguard. Is she my best tier 8 BB? No. But I do like how nimble she is, nimble enough I can dodge salvos from enemy BB, her guns in my experience are consistent and thanks to her conceal I can either suprise attack or make a escape attempt.
What I however don’t like about her are the turret angles and her citadel being quite exposed, but for the rest I would say she is not a bad ship, but that’s my opinion.
If you ask me which tier 8 BB is the worst is Anhalt. Her torps don’t do as much damage as it looks like. And yes she might have 15 guns but they are as accurate as a drunk stormtrooper. And she can barely pen any armour.
An amazing match and yet another example of the crazy WOWS matchmaking. Mid-tier matches are a real pain with uptiers and 2 CV’s plus 3 subs. Not much fun in a Japanese light cruiser facing Tier VIII CV’s and subs.
She is outclassed in most matches but strangely she’s one of my highest winrate ships. Perhaps it’s the extra caution and strategy you consciously need to use rather that relying on big guns or armour.
Knowing you are in a dog ship makes you play safer -> better since you dont get caught in weird situations
Someone get that Vangard a knighthood, that was amazing.
Thanks 👃
I find it interesting that there can be a ship 3 tiers down from the top, but you’ll never see one 3 tiers up from the bottom. For example, a T5 in this game, but you’ll never see a T9 instead of that T5. I’ve had games where I am the single highest tier ship, but never 3 tiers up. Regardless, it’s still seal clubbing and imho it shouldn’t be a thing. Ever. But hey, Wargaming will always have rules that make no sense.
Games are based on the top tier of your division. So if you have a Div out of T6 and T7 the T7 controls the matchmaker. Therefore your T6/T7 Div could end up anywhere from T5-T9 Opponents.
Thats why its only possible to have one -2 ship per division in a game (max), but never a T9 in an all T6 game for example
To those that say they can’t hit anything in a British BB, as I have most of them I can tell you it’s definitely not the ships fault! LOL
Imagine being that Nicholas getting triple up-tiered into a double CV and hybrid ship game and still get a kill.
9 Citadels 199k damage in my vanguard the other day, 3 of those citadels were on a Georgia.
I can highly advise treating her like a battle cruiser and she can play hard as a kiting ship. Those guns hit really hard
The fun with CV’s is that the game experience increases exponentially the more of them you get in a match – at least on some Russian spreadsheets
Vanguard’s strengths compared to similar Brit premium BBs are 2.0 sigma and great maneuverability. Its weakness is standard AP pen angles. So if you’re skilled both at switching HE/AP and rudder juking plus set your ship and Capt skills to match it can be effective. Great game.
Excellent game sir! Great review also as always! Must…..Win……Harder! Still the skill demonstrated was enough for an entertaining video! GG
Good one, not taking anything away from katsu but I notice the enemy has to cooperate when players have these great games, bullrushing CVs are kind of funny no matter what the circumstance.
An absolutely amazing battle. Well done, Captain. +1
Always stick,stay close with Bbs in Double CV Games.
AA no fly zone