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But hey, at least it’s a historical ship, it’s nicely modelled, and it has something unique about it.
I do really want it because it looks great lol
It’s freaking wisky herself of course I’m gonna get her, I will take a “mediocre” historical ship anytime, over another paper behemoth that probably will have blow itself up after a full salvo if constructed under the “historical accurated” parameters that war gaming uses as base.
Actually, I think its the first historical dockyard ship so its kinda cool getting to see some of the innards of a real ship.
>>can output lots of damage
>>can be finnicky
>>not as tanky as a mainline BB
so it’s basically a balanced battlecruiser. It looks bad next to overpowered BBs (e.g., St Vincent and Thunderer) but in its own right is a well designed and unique ship.
As a Bourgogne and Jean Bart Enjoyer, I love the reload booster. So this ship is a yes for me 🙂
That’s how the OG American Fast BBs are supposed to play anyways. If you treat it like a super heavy cruiser and have good angle discipline then it’s really rewarding.
Bourgogne is considered one of the the better premium ship due to its reload booster and speed boost. This ship has bigger guns, better accuracy, unlimited reload booster, better repair. It’s going to be great.
it’ll probably be good, but don’t forget that Burger has 12 guns. A large shell volume can compensate for a lot of weaknesses.
St Vincent has disappoint me multiple times with her shells going nowhere when needed. To me, people are overestimating Vincent and putting her on level with Thunderer when the latter is more easy & consistent to use.
aim bug where 2 ships behind each other always goes short is bullshit and has been there for years
And they will never fix it because scamming money is more important.
” just a mediocre ”
PQ : 260k !!!
42K was a total gift by the Salem, mind.
@@EvoraGT430 let’s not pretend that there is a Salem in almost every game, and a little Salem in all of us.
guy’s averaging 15k per salvo and calling it mediocre
@sdluke it’s good for views
@@EvoraGT430 I was the Marco Polo in this game. He and the Preussen spent all their attention on me. Very poor experience for me
Looks pretty good for a Dockyard tbh. And pretty Generous compared to the last good dockyard in Puerto Rico
ZF-6 was also fantastic. P
Compare Slava with Wisconsin
Same heal and guns as Montana, worse shell velocity, better sigma, better horizontal dispersion, worse vertical dispersion, better armor, better speed,F key (cooldown and reload buff), and worse HP. Slava bow is 25mm that gets overmatched whilst whiskey has 32mm
Wisconsin’s much better. Better armor, higher damage shells, faster, better AA, more consistent accuracy. Slava’s one gimmick is being able to citadel flat broadside ships at range. It’s useless in ever other scenario
Wisconsin is more flexible, Slava is only good at sniping briadside
Yesterday i just saw someone commented this “Can’t wait for the “I was wrong about the Wisconsin” video in 2 weeks” well surprise surprise
Not even 2 weeks yet
ikr lmao
I was just about to say that there was a guy who said this lmao
PQ calm dawn its good ship, mediocre is like german bbs or ita bbs. 3200 dubs for it its really cheap.
German BB is great but they negatively affected by meta
pq: complains of being citadeled in the Wisconsin
also pq: want wg to raise all citadels and let people hit ’em
I think you have very unrealistic expectations of battleships where your metrics don’t really make any battleship more than average. The consistency you speak of does not exist in ANY battleship, and the issue with expecting that consistency is that when you don’t get it you start getting tilted which will negatively impact your performance and ability to make good shots, and that causes even more tilt which eventually makes the ship perform badly. Having a positive attitude will likely help but I am not going to backseat you on that because I am not one to say this at all given I quit the game specifically for these reasons. I feel you brother.
Well said.
THANK YOU ! at least someone said it. Not sure if he’s called the ship mediocre for the clickbait or he was serious
The dude just have straight up unrealistic expectations about BB artillery, at the end of the day it’s still a battleship so RNG is still play a big factor to where the shells land no matter how good the sigma and dispersion the BB have, from the video he was chunking 15k and farming citadels left and right, the dispersion seem very tight and landed where he aimed and still concluded that the ship is mediocre because it can’t devstriked a ship and only get citadels like wtf ??
It’s like he’s expected to straight up devstriked full health delete every broadside ships that he see which is an unrealistic expectation from him, not even Slava can do it constantly. he’s complaining about not able to devstriked broadside ships is like cruiser player complain about not getting fire from every HE shell they hit. it’s all RNG and it’s a balance factor for every class, you don’t want BB to have pinpoint laser accuracy every salvos, you don’t want cruiser to set fire every salvos, you don’t want DD torps to flood every time it hit something.
I have yet to see what he’s considered an above average BB, even ships that he considered to have accurate guns like Vincent, Ohio, Bungo, Georgia still have wonky accuracy from time to time, heck Stalingrad with the same battlecruiser dispersion and 2.65 sigma still have wonky dispersion and can’t dev strike ships consistently, so I don’t know what he’s yapping about
@@faynk.6247 Yeah the game is really built around RNG which for me is the reason I stopped playing. I hate RNG-based mechanics and I like more consistent gameplay rules where doing one thing yields certain results, and WoWs is just not that type of a game at all. This is why I stopped playing it altogether. And this is also why this game never took off in the e-sports area. Pro-level gaming requires a lot of consistency that allows players to improve their skills in a predictable manner. WoWs tournaments on the highest levels have a lot impacted by RNG which is a terrible environment for professional gamers. Basically, you can do everything right and get absolutely no results for taking the time and effort to do it that way.
PQ played this game on the highest level for too long and like every pro he suffers from frustration regarding the inconsistency of the game. There’s a reason most pros in this game quit, and it is this reason. For PQ, the game is also content that he makes money from, so it’s like a toxic relationship.
I truly understand his frustration, I have the luxury to move on because I never invested as much as he did in this game and it’s enough for me to watch others play and enjoy their content. He spent thousands of hours on this game and put a lot of effort into it.
That’s the thing, this BB’s whole gimmick and why it’s tier 10 is it’s accuracy and consistency, the fact that it didn’t live up to expectation is what makes it mediocre, its just an Iowa with a slightly better chance of getting a good salvo, Tier 10 is too high of a tier for her.
Potato is very negative, and tbh I imagine him to be a rager in private. I’ve sort of stopped watching his videos
“It shouldn’t take citadels.”
Sits flat broadside.
“I took a ton of citadels.”
…C’mon, man.
The evidence is right there than having a low citadel doesnt make you immune to getting citadeled and yet pq keeps saying thats the case.
My best guess is that shels are coming in at an angle and over matching the roof of the citadel, since iirc its quite thin.
The citadel sits underwater so it’s extremely unlikely for it to eat cits. Thing is, PQ mistakes tons of pen damage for citadel damage as shown in his previous video on this ship where he healed more than half of the damage he took and still thought he ate cits.
@@somebody700 – In the previous bid when he got nailed by the Shikishima he only had 26.5K HP and took hits simultaneously from Hindy. I don’t care who you are, if you give broadside to 20″ it’s going to hurt. I think it was just reasonable pen damage for those big ass shells.
Keep in mind this is the same person who thought Bungo was mid for a while. The “I was wrong about Wisconsin” video is coming down the pipeline
“The Defiance is all citadel!” Proceeds to aim for the very front (maybe even in front) of the citadel and then complains when he doesn’t get all citadels.
I think the reason you are getting citadel’d so much is because the the citadel roof armor is easy to over match
>New Ship
>Have Great first game
>Have bad following games
>Say ship is bad
>Two weeks later come back and say you were wrong lol
The script is getting a little too predictable.
i think wisconsin will be a great addition to the game. just imagine what would have happened if they put bigger guns or higher alpha damage on it 😀
I agree. I’d love to see USS New Jersey next.
I think PQ doesnt know what plunging fire is or that you can have an underwater citadel and still have your citadel hit by longer range BB shells that come through the upper deck into the citadel. He acts like thats not possible.
I get that too. He doesn’t seem to understand how the game actually works.
As a certain niche YTber said, “what will ever satisfy BB ‘players’? constant Satsuma F-key dispersion? Thunderer maneuverability + conceal? When does the balance begin?”
The fundamental problem is that RNG as a balancing mechanic sucks. It’s like bloom in FPS. It’s intended to reduce skill gap by making good players with good aim miss more often, and conversely allow players that have bad aim still manage to get hits. It creates situations where you get rewarded at random instead of playing well, and makes it harder to understand situations where you loss because mistakes get punished randomly.
Overmatch is the other problem — instead of re-vamping BB balance to address the dispersion RNG, WG introduces more Overmatch to make those much reduced successful hits have more impact. So now we’re in the situation where there are a shit-ton of BBs with overmatch that, if given better dispersion, would be an absolute problem.
So yeah, the balance is fucked. Nothing will satisfy BB players because playing a BB is basically means you’re just controlling a floating slot machine. If you like gambling, BBs are for you. For everyone else, you just have to play a different class. Or a different game.
@@blackraen Dispersion RNG is a basic necessity in the game, otherwise cruisers and DDs have actually no way to deal with BBs, even without overmatch in play because you can just zero in on the bow/stern and just fuck up the cruiser anyways.
Dispersion RNG certainly sucks sometimes, just like Fire RNG and torp dispersion RNG. Its a basic mechanic in the game and its not even that horrible considering WoT exists. If you’re missing a lot with a BB, you have options with better base accuracy. And with new BB designs lately, you start seeing lesser downsides compared to older BBs, just the very fact that Bungo has a funny spotter that reduces dispersion is already something that puts some level of control on that RNG. Meanwhile stuff like Lauria/Vincent have such insane conceal, speed and even reload that they can close in and get out if they really feel the need to.
Also a point to note that if you make things laser accurate, you get stuff like Ragnar which can point and click on specific parts of a ship. The problem with the game is that we’ve reached a breaking point where overmatch ruins the fun for everything and BBs can only get weirdly OP features to make them interesting (i.e SAP, conceal, speed, turret traverse, F keys that boost survivability). You just can’t release a Monty line nowadays and gain some hype behind it.
Malteseknight is a way better player and shows how powerful this ship is
agreed
I always cry a little inside when you expect every battleship in the game to have that kind of consistency and call it average. I mained German BBs for a long, long time. I lived in the RNG land being happy when 3 out of 8 shells landed. Then I grinded the Japan line and American line to Vermont. Holy fuck are those ships ACCURATE by comparison. This ship? Looks like a sniper railgun that has tons of AA, good speed, pretty good conceal and decent survivability. If I didn’t know what it’s like outside the German line I’d call it straight up OP