World of Warships: How to CL | Chapayev – Kutuzov’s uglier brother

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This may be inferior in almost all aspects when compared it’s premium counterpart but it doesn’t mean it’s useless! Fast reload rate and effective and shells should make your progression to Dimitri Donskoy a piece cake.

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  1. How do you Citadel that Easly ? ! ^^

  2. 11:56 LMAO It is so odd, the Mikhail Kutuzov (Sverdlov Class Cruiser) is
    significantly longer than the Chapayev Class, regardless of rudder shift
    time, that means the Kutuzov SHOULD have a wider turning circle than the
    Chapayev, as the longer a ship is, the more water resistance when turning!

    About the only REALISTIC way the Sverdlov Class (Mikhail Kutuzov) could
    have a tighter turning circle, would be IF the Russian Engineers had not
    only designed a much more efficient rudder – and potentially more of them,
    AS WELL as designed the ship the engage a reverse gear on both the left and
    right propellers, so that when the ship is thrown into full port or
    starboard, the corresponding propeller on the opposite side (starboard prop
    if turning port, and port prop if turning starboard) switches to a reverse
    gear.

    If that is what they did for the Sverdlov class, and did not do it on the
    Chapayev class, then the MUCH TIGHTER turning circle of the Kutuzov would
    be historically accurate!

    Now I am going to go try to find real life turning circle specifications
    for both Sverdlov and Chapayev!

    It would not surprise me too much if the Russians did indeed improve the
    steering gears on the Sverdlov class significantly from the Chapayev class.
    Because the Sverdlov class was the ULTIMATE – in both terms of the word, as
    it was both their LAST (Ultimate) all gun cruiser design, and their most
    advanced (Ultimate) all gun cruiser design!

    The Sverdlov class were in operation FAR longer than the Chapayevs IIRC!
    And the impetus behind the design of a highly advanced all gun cruiser was
    quite simple: As newer and more advanced weaponry was developed so we’re
    counter measures for said advanced weaponry – including devices that could
    emit a very strong electromagnetic pulse, which would at very least shut
    down all electronics for a period of time, but if strong enough can and
    would fry said electronics completely!

    Also, there exist MANY ways in which to knock a missile from the sky, or
    cause it to detonate long before it can cause any damage whatsoever to any
    target! But a gun? Well guns do not need any electricity to fire, and a
    very strong EMP will not do anything to them, then – when a high speed
    shell is in flight towards a target – all you can really do is try to dodge
    and/or hope said shell either misses or hits enough armor to bounce
    harmlessly.

    Also the Sverdlov class was large in order to be able to hold enough fuel
    to go 10,000 miles at 21 MPH (18 knots) – the Soviets were actually VERY
    smart to design the Sverdlov class when they did, despite the criticism it
    gets for being a WW2 design produced in 1949.

    But there was VERY sound reasoning in building a WW2 type cruiser at that
    date and time! Not only that, but while the design was firmly WW2, the
    equipment was VERY ADVANCED!

    Take the 100mm secondary guns for example: Notice the little ball shaped
    bulge on top of those turrets? Those are all radars, for both range finding
    and target acquisition. Now by design, the main guns are aimed and directed
    by those 2 HUGE balls – which are also radar, combined with incredibly
    accurate stereoscopic range finders (the “ears” on the main turrets) There
    were also optical range finders on all 6 of the secondary turrets as well,
    and there was a central target acquisition and range finding radar/optical
    equipment on the bridge!

    Well without ranting TOO much more, the Sverdlov class could fire very
    accurately without ANY electronics! BUT – all the radars and the
    electronics that handle them as well as output the proper target
    acquisition, ALL OF THEM – are totally REDUNDANT!

    The two big radars meant for the main guns, can control ALL guns, if only
    one is knocked out, the ship still has basically 100% of its accuracy and
    target acquistion, if BOTH of the big Radar balls are knocked out, the main
    guns will get the required information from any one, or all 6 of the
    secondary turrets! And as such WILL STILL retain the vast majority of its
    accuracy and target acquisition abilities!

    And if both main radars are knocked out, and 5 of the secondary turret
    radars have been knocked out, then ALL THE GUNS can be laid to the single
    remaining radar on a secondary turret, and still have nearly it’s full
    capabilities!

    THEN if all radars are completely knocked out, the ship has TONS of
    advanced optical sights for range finding and target acquisition – meaning
    the ship is still perfectly able to fight! It is this level of redundancy,
    and that amount of technology that made the Sverdlov class INDISPENSABLE
    were there to be any naval battles when she was in service with about 15 of
    her sisters!

  3. 11:56 LMAO It is so odd, the Mikhail Kutuzov (Sverdlov Class Cruiser) is
    significantly longer than the Chapayev Class, regardless of rudder shift
    time, that means the Kutuzov SHOULD have a wider turning circle than the
    Chapayev, as the longer a ship is, the more water resistance when turning!

    About the only REALISTIC way the Sverdlov Class (Mikhail Kutuzov) could
    have a tighter turning circle, would be IF the Russian Engineers had not
    only designed a much more efficient rudder – and potentially more of them,
    AS WELL as designed the ship the engage a reverse gear on both the left and
    right propellers, so that when the ship is thrown into full port or
    starboard, the corresponding propeller on the opposite side (starboard prop
    if turning port, and port prop if turning starboard) switches to a reverse
    gear.

    If that is what they did for the Sverdlov class, and did not do it on the
    Chapayev class, then the MUCH TIGHTER turning circle of the Kutuzov would
    be historically accurate!

    Now I am going to go try to find real life turning circle specifications
    for both Sverdlov and Chapayev!

    It would not surprise me too much if the Russians did indeed improve the
    steering gears on the Sverdlov class significantly from the Chapayev class.
    Because the Sverdlov class was the ULTIMATE – in both terms of the word, as
    it was both their LAST (Ultimate) all gun cruiser design, and their most
    advanced (Ultimate) all gun cruiser design!

    The Sverdlov class were in operation FAR longer than the Chapayevs IIRC!
    And the impetus behind the design of a highly advanced all gun cruiser was
    quite simple: As newer and more advanced weaponry was developed so we’re
    counter measures for said advanced weaponry – including devices that could
    emit a very strong electromagnetic pulse, which would at very least shut
    down all electronics for a period of time, but if strong enough can and
    would fry said electronics completely!

    Also, there exist MANY ways in which to knock a missile from the sky, or
    cause it to detonate long before it can cause any damage whatsoever to any
    target! But a gun? Well guns do not need any electricity to fire, and a
    very strong EMP will not do anything to them, then – when a high speed
    shell is in flight towards a target – all you can really do is try to dodge
    and/or hope said shell either misses or hits enough armor to bounce
    harmlessly.

    Also the Sverdlov class was large in order to be able to hold enough fuel
    to go 10,000 miles at 21 MPH (18 knots) – the Soviets were actually VERY
    smart to design the Sverdlov class when they did, despite the criticism it
    gets for being a WW2 design produced in 1949.

    But there was VERY sound reasoning in building a WW2 type cruiser at that
    date and time! Not only that, but while the design was firmly WW2, the
    equipment was VERY ADVANCED!

    Take the 100mm secondary guns for example: Notice the little ball shaped
    bulge on top of those turrets? Those are all radars, for both range finding
    and target acquisition. Now by design, the main guns are aimed and directed
    by those 2 HUGE balls – which are also radar, combined with incredibly
    accurate stereoscopic range finders (the “ears” on the main turrets) There
    were also optical range finders on all 6 of the secondary turrets as well,
    and there was a central target acquisition and range finding radar/optical
    equipment on the bridge!

    Well without ranting TOO much more, the Sverdlov class could fire very
    accurately without ANY electronics! BUT – all the radars and the
    electronics that handle them as well as output the proper target
    acquisition, ALL OF THEM – are totally REDUNDANT!

    The two big radars meant for the main guns, can control ALL guns, if only
    one is knocked out, the ship still has basically 100% of its accuracy and
    target acquistion, if BOTH of the big Radar balls are knocked out, the main
    guns will get the required information from any one, or all 6 of the
    secondary turrets! And as such WILL STILL retain the vast majority of its
    accuracy and target acquisition abilities!

    And if both main radars are knocked out, and 5 of the secondary turret
    radars have been knocked out, then ALL THE GUNS can be laid to the single
    remaining radar on a secondary turret, and still have nearly it’s full
    capabilities!

    THEN if all radars are completely knocked out, the ship has TONS of
    advanced optical sights for range finding and target acquisition – meaning
    the ship is still perfectly able to fight! It is this level of redundancy,
    and that amount of technology that made the Sverdlov class INDISPENSABLE
    were there to be any naval battles when she was in service with about 15 of
    her sisters!

  4. 10:46 I still don’t see that German Cruisers are hard at all to citadel!
    Well especially the Yorck and earlier are actually some of the easiest
    ships to citadel for their tiers! Though at tier 7, the Atlanta, then the
    Pensacola, and after that the Yorck are the easiest tier 7 cruisers to
    citadel in that order! At least in my experience XD

    I have found more luck against the Hipper and Roon when aiming for the rear
    most smoke stack and farther back. That said I do recall getting citadel
    pens against both right near the middle at the water line, but it would
    seem they are more vulnerable towards the aft.

  5. In terms of looks, I would have to say that Chapayev looks sexier than
    Kutuzov, she’s more compact and streamlined.

    But in terms of functionality, Kutuzov is incredibly sexy!

    I still cannot believe Aeroon thinks the Atago is an all around better ship
    for everything but AA, but then he still uses the AA range mod on both his
    Atago and Kutuzov!

    Furthermore his Kutuzov is completely kitted out for AA, all of his skills
    and module slots are used to give AA more range and better damage, and I
    TOTALLY understand using that build for team battles, where the Kutuzov
    will be acting as escort frequently.

    But because of this, he tends to not have nearly as much success as he
    should during random battles!

    If I were him, I would probably spend the extra gold to be able to switch
    modules for 50 gold, and I would also train up another Russian captain to
    focus mostly on main guns, with skills such as Demolition expert, expert
    marksman, and of course the Accuracy Module!

    I have talked to him, and he seems to think that the 7% less dispersion
    does not matter for cruisers! To which, I do not know what to say, apart
    from to quote accuracy specs with and without the module, and then mention
    that whenever you are firing at ANY PREMIUM ship, and almost every other
    ship where the player wants to be competitive as possible, You MUST account
    for the FACT that when shooting at premiums, or regular ships with the
    22,500 credit camouflage, you WILL get 4% more shot dispersion!

    So, without the module, when firing at such targets, you will be a full 11%
    less accurate than you COULD be!

    And since dispersion is linear, it helps at all ranges! Atago without
    accuracy mod has IIRC 143m of dispersion at 15.8km, with the module it
    drops to just 132!

    And the Kutuzov makes for a rather HUGE difference! Without module it has
    164 meters at 19.1km WITH the module that drops to just 153 meters, which
    is INSANELY accurate for such a long range!

    The only thing stopping the Kutuzov from having long range rails guns like
    the Zao with the range mod, or the Moskva especially, is that it’s shells
    are light at 123 pounds (which is actually heavy for a 152mm shell) – which
    means that they lose velocity at range – and is why it takes 14 second to
    fire out to 19.1km – despite the rather amazing velocity of 950 meters/sec!

    By comparison, the Zao shells move at 920 meters/sec, BUT because they are
    actually the heaviest 203mm shells in the game (Which surprised me,
    considering the Baltimore and Des Moines fire a “super heavy” AP shell
    weighing 330 pounds) – weighing in at something like 345 pounds, they
    travel out to 19km in a matter of 10 seconds or so!

    Moskva being the absolute fastest, because it not only has a velocity of
    985 meters/sec, but the shells weigh in at 380 pounds, making their travel
    time to 19km something like 8.5 seconds, by comparison that is how long it
    takes the USN 127mm guns to travel just 10km!

  6. I really like incoming fire alert to, you know the right moment to change
    your course

  7. Juan Andrés Méndez

    Hi voulez, nice match.. i recently unlock the Chappy and im enjoying it,
    invisifire at 14km is great :)

  8. MelancholicThug

    I’m enjoying Chappy quite a lot. I think it’s my favourite (after Budy). In
    a way, it’s expected for Kutuzov (Sverdlov-class) to be a little stronger,
    as it’s the successor class to Chapayev.

  9. Fernando Mernez

    Nice game and fantastic tactical concepts, as always.
    This time I’m disagree about the Chapayev. In paper, the ship has, almost
    in the mayority, inferior general characteristics against the Kutuzov but,
    there are some aspects that makes this ship tactically superior: the
    concealment and the radar.
    But to make it works, you need leave the concept of the alone “incoming
    fire alert” perk. I think “situation awareness” perk gives you a lot of
    free information, even in a Ishizuchi.
    So, in this case you can reach with the Chapayev to a detectability range
    of 10.2 km, with that, you can fire at really close range without detection
    (of course if there are no nearby ships in the vicinity), and on the other
    hand the combination of “situation awareness” perk, rate of fire, radar and
    hydroacoustic they make it a brutal DD hunter.
    I have both, but in my case, I am much succesfull in the Chapayev.
    Cya!

  10. Kutosov has a 6,5km stealt penalty when shooting. And this ship has 4km. So
    this ship can stealtshoot better (bigger stealt sone) + hitting target
    better cause it is closer to target when stealt shooting. And it is better
    in surprising DDs cause better stealt. SO it is cind of a pre nerfed Mogami

  11. Lol, Gordey Grigoryev is my Shchors CPT who will become my Chapayev CPT.
    Funny.

  12. How do you feel it compares to Shchors? Especially given the T-VIII
    matchmaking?

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